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Secular Orders of Knighthood
« on: May 18, 2010, 03:40:35 PM »
Holy Spirit (Spain) - Also known as the Order of the Dove, this order was founded by Juan I, c. 1390. It never functioned as a true order, but rather as an award or collar, according to Boulton. Its badge was a dove descending.
 
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 [There was on the said collar] una paloma blanca 'a white dove' c. 1390 Spanish Boulton
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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2010, 12:56:50 PM »
Order of the Dove, Castile, 1390-- Cliental pseudo-orders :(

Cliental pseudo-orders were not orders of chivalry in the fashion of the Templars, Hospitallers, Teutonic Knights, Caltrava, Lazurus, or St George, or the Garter, etc.. :'( They were princes' retinues fashionably termed orders. :P They were without statutes or restricted memberships. :o

Ref: D'Arcy Jonathan Dacre Boulton’s, The knights of the crown : the monarchical orders of knighthood in later medieval Europe, 1325–1520, Woodbridge, Suffolk: Boydell Press, Palgrave Macmillan (February 1987), ISBN 0-312-45842-8
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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 01:06:23 PM »
Here's one for the ladies :)

We actually have a group of renthusiasts in an Order named after this group of brave women.


The Order of the Hatchet


There is a case of a clearly military order of knighthood for women. It is the order of the Hatchet (orden de la Hacha) in Catalonia. It was founded in 1149 by Raymond Berenger, count of Barcelona, to honor the women who fought for the defense of the town of Tortosa against a Moor attack. The dames admitted to the order received many privileges, including exemption from all taxes, and took precedence over men in public assemblies. I presume the order died out with the original members.

Here is a description taken from Ashmole, The Institution, Laws, and Ceremony of the Most Noble Order of the Garter (1672), Ch. 3, sect. 3:

"The example is of the Noble Women of Tortosa in Aragon, and recorded by Josef Micheli Marquez, who plainly calls them Cavalleros or Knights, or may I not rather say Cavalleras, seeing I observe the words Equitissae and Militissae (formed from the Latin Equites and Milites) heretofore applied to Women, and sometimes used to express Madams or Ladies,though now these Titles are not known.

"Don Raymond, last Earl of Barcellona (who by intermarriage with Petronilla, only Daughter and Heir of King Ramiro the Monk, united that principality to the Kingdom of Aragon) having in the year 1149, gained the City of Tortosa from the Moors, they on the 31 of December following, laid a new Siege to that place, for the recovery of it out of the Earls hands. The Inhabitants being a length reduced to gread streights, desired relief of the Earl, but he, being not in a condition to give them any, they entertained some thoughts of making a surrender. Which the Women hearing of, to prevent the disaster threatning their City, themselves, and Children, put on mens Clothes, and by a resolute sally, forced the Moors to raise the Siege.

"The Earl, finding himself obliged, bythe gallentry of the action, thought fit to make his acknowlegements thereof, by granting them several Privileges and Immunities, and to perpetuate the memory of so signal an attempt, instituted an Order, somewhat like a Military Order, into which were admitted only those Brave Women, deriving the honor to their Descendants, and assigned them for a Dadge, a thing like a Fryars Capouche, sharp at the top, after the form of a Torch, and of a crimson colour, to be worn upon their Head-clothes. He also ordained, that at all publick meetings, the women should have precedence of the Men. That they should be exempted from all Taxes, adn that all the Apparel and Jewels, though of never so great value, left by their dead Husbands, should be their own.

"These Women (saith our Author) having thus aquired this Honor by their personal Valour, carried themselves after the Military Knights of those days." Jeanne Hachette, who fought to repel a Burgundian assault on the town of Beauvais in 1472. The King exempted her from taxes, and ordered that, in an annual procession to commemorate the event, women would have precedence over men. This story seems to be a carbon copy of the Order of the Hatchet story...

In Italy, the Order of the glorious Saint Mary, founded by Loderigo d'Andalo, a nobleman of Bologna in 1233, and approved by pope Alexander IV in 1261, was the first religious order of knighthood to grant the rank of militissa to women. This order was suppressed by Sixtus V in 1558.

In the Low Countries, at the initiative of Catherine Baw in 1441, and 10 years later of Elizabeth, Mary and Isabella of the house of Hornes, orders were founded which were open exclusively to women of noble birth, who received the French title of chevalière or the Latin title of equitissa. In his Glossarium (s.v. militissa), Du Cange notes that still in his day (17th c.), the female canons of the canonical monastery of St. Gertrude in Nivelles (Brabant), after a probation of 3 years, are made knights (militissae) at the altar, by a (male) knight called in for that purpose, who gives them the accolade with a sowrd and pronounces the usual words.

In England, ladies were appointed to the Garter almost from the start. In all, 68 ladies were appointed between 1358 and 1488, including all consorts. Though many were women of royal blood, or wives of knights of the Garter, some women were neither. They wore the garter on the left arm, and some are shown on their tombstones with this arrangement. After 1488, no other appointments are known, although it is said that the Garter was granted to a Neapolitan poetess, Laura Bacio Terricina, by Edward VI. In 1638, a proposal was made to revive the use of robes for the wives of knights in ceremonies, but it came to nought. (See Edmund Fellowes, Knights of the Garter, 1939; and Beltz: Memorials of the Order of the Garter).

Unless otherwise noted, all the above is from the book by H. E. Cardinale, Orders of Knighthood, Awards and the Holy See, 1983. The info on the order of the Hatchet is reproduced elsewhere as well, e.g., a Spanish encyclopedia. I have seen the order of glorious Saint Mary discussed elsewhere, but without mention of women. I have yet to identify the orders of the Hornes family.

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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 01:08:07 PM »
M'Lady Bonny Pearl, we actually discuss this Order on another thread FOLLOWING ORDERS, as it's members participated in a "Crusade".  ;D

I see you've given recognition to some of the Ladies who follow the thread......
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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 01:09:39 PM »
Order of the Dove, Castile, 1390-- Cliental pseudo-orders :(

Cliental pseudo-orders were not orders of chivalry in the fashion of the Templars, Hospitallers, Teutonic Knights, Caltrava, Lazurus, or St George, or the Garter, etc.. :'( They were princes' retinues fashionably termed orders. :P They were without statutes or restricted memberships. :o

Ref: D'Arcy Jonathan Dacre Boulton’s, The knights of the crown : the monarchical orders of knighthood in later medieval Europe, 1325–1520, Woodbridge, Suffolk: Boydell Press, Palgrave Macmillan (February 1987), ISBN 0-312-45842-8

Interesting take on it;
but an order of knighthood created by a king was still an order of knighthood.

I had never heard of the Order of the Hatchet. Thank for bringing that up Bonny.
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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 01:15:14 PM »
Holy Spirit (Spain) - Also known as the Order of the Dove. It never functioned as a true order, but rather as an award or collar, according to Boulton.

 ;D

They were a group bound by a simple oath of allegiance to a prince who bestowed a badge or insignia. These were in fact glorified retinues, misnamed orders, which makes them often confused with princely orders.
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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 01:19:18 PM »
You're Welcome Dona

We have/had a 'group' on Renspace.  Alas there hasn't been much activity with it for about a year now.  I have been working on getting the group up again on it's own site. :)  I'd love to see this order active again and grow.






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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 01:26:43 PM »
M'Lady Bonny Pearl, we actually discuss this Order on another thread FOLLOWING ORDERS, as it's members participated in a "Crusade".  ;D

I see you've given recognition to some of the Ladies who follow the thread......

I will have to read this thread in depth.  I was not aware some of our sisters were participating.  I just saw that the crest that looks a lot like the one that was created by our dear Caitlin has been presented on there.  Will have to look more.
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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2010, 01:44:02 PM »
It appears when you mention the RENSPACE, that we may not be talking about the same people. The ladies that comment in the Following Orders thread were bestowed an affliation with the Order of the Hatchet due to its gender demographics, when compared to the Templars and such. :P

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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2010, 01:52:56 PM »
I believe you may be right WM.   :)

I know there are some folks on this site that were involved in the group on renspace.
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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2010, 01:56:48 PM »
Interesting. Do they participate for the "badge" to wear at fest, or do they study the history and combat actions of the original group, as we like to focus on in our thread?

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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2010, 02:06:28 PM »
The respace group was formally founded on 12/31/07 (12/31 in honor of the original date).  Character creation was a big part of it.  A banner, crest, etc was designed.


We did not have to earn a badge or anything such as that.  It was mostly founded to show honor to the women who fought and to strive to have that same valor/conviction in our everyday lives, etc.
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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2010, 02:09:52 PM »
Thank you for the clarification. Huzzah on your intent.      And a hearty Deus vult from our end.

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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2010, 02:15:34 PM »
I am not surprised that there would be more than one ren based Order out there considering the history of these original knights. :)

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Re: Secular Orders of Knighthood
« Reply #14 on: May 19, 2010, 02:26:50 PM »
With the demise of RENSPACE as I understand it, will we be seeing a thread for these Orders here?

 

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