Period accuracy of pouches

[DonaCatalina]

Someone at Scarborough recently told His Lordship that his loop over the belt pouch was not accurate to 1533.
Pouch Research resource
The one his lordship wears is similar to this one, without so much metalwork.
Detail from The Crucifixion, c. 1420-1430

So while some of the more modern pouches with fake eyeballs and such are not period; the basic leather pouches for sale at most Faires would not look out of place in 1533.

[Lady Rosalind]

Thanks for the links! I really like the pouch in the painting.

My mind boggles that someone said that to your husband...

[Bonny Pearl]

Wow, that is a bit much lol!  Ah well, to each their own, yes?

[Doberman]

So while some of the more modern pouches with fake eyeballs and such are not period;

FWIW, we don't claim that they are. 


As for the claimant at Scarborough, do you have any more detail on the reasoning behind it?  What was the belief?  That they exclusively used drawstring pouches carried in their hands?  No pouches at all?  This one baffles me.

[DonaCatalina]

Yes they claimed that hand carried drawstring pouches were the only period ones.

[Aiacha]

How funny, I was just pondering that question yesterday.  I may try hand at a new pouch of my own.  When I get back. 

[Lady Rosalind]

Yes they claimed that hand carried drawstring pouches were the only period ones.

Hand carried only? Seems kind of inconvenient, especially when there is a handy belt to hang a pouch from, LOL. 

[Master James]

Sadly you will run into people like that from time to time.  We had a vendor at a faire chastise my wife for wearing pink because "pink isn't period".  LOL!!!  And when we tried to politely explain to him that pink was indeed period, he scoffed at us like we were idiots or something.  Obviously he wasn't very well informed or was sadly misinformed.  Oh well.

[DonaCatalina]

Sadly you will run into people like that from time to time.  We had a vendor at a faire chastise my wife for wearing pink because "pink isn't period".  LOL!!!  And when we tried to politely explain to him that pink was indeed period, he scoffed at us like we were idiots or something.  Obviously he wasn't very well informed or was sadly misinformed.  Oh well.

Yes, that is exactly why I started this thread so that people on this forum would be forewarned about issues like that.

[isabelladangelo]

http://www.larsdatter.com/pouches.htm

I *adore* the larsdatter site and here's a long list to point this individual next time.

[isabelladangelo]

Sadly you will run into people like that from time to time.  We had a vendor at a faire chastise my wife for wearing pink because "pink isn't period".  LOL!!!  And when we tried to politely explain to him that pink was indeed period, he scoffed at us like we were idiots or something.  Obviously he wasn't very well informed or was sadly misinformed.  Oh well.

  Those people really exist?   Have they never stepped into an art museum?  How do they explain colors like this http://www.flickr.com/photos/jubileel/4534702389/in/set-72157623890187932/ where there is red hosen, a red halo, and a very lovely pink tunic?

[Lady Kathleen of Olmsted]

Being that hidden pockets did not come into play to well into the 17th century, wearing pouches that were on straps of some kind or hung from belts, made a lot of sense.

[bellevivre]

http://www.larsdatter.com/pouches.htm

I *adore* the larsdatter site and here's a long list to point this individual next time.

That site is amazing! I am very happy to see that so many of the bags are in the 'double scallop' style, as I picked one up at Sherwood this past year (lol alternatively called the 'bollucks' bag or the 'boobs' bag by drunken friends)

As far as things that are period that people argue- while I do little HA anymore, I still know what's up! Ive thought of getting small pictures of 'questionable' items just to prove that yes, they DID exist...

[gypsylakat]

Mom pickled  beets last night.. I don't think anyone who has ever seen pickled beets can tell me that someone wouldn't look at those and say... hmmm that is a rather lovely pink color... and very rich...

[Rani Zemirah]

Mom pickled  beets last night.. I don't think anyone who has ever seen pickled beets can tell me that someone wouldn't look at those and say... hmmm that is a rather lovely pink color... and very rich...

Most certainly not anyone who had splashed a bit of the juice on their nice white chemise...