Need help finding a pattern

[Lady Rebecca]

Okay, I've been scouring the internet for over an hour, and can't find a pattern I know exists. It's an out-of-print pattern, I believe made my Simplicity (it's definitely one of the big 3). It's the only pattern any of the big 3 has made for the 17th century, and I know the picture on the front is of a yellow gown. Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?

Also, while I'm at it, does anyone happen to have that one historical pattern review site that has all of the big 3 on it? I can't remember the url.

[ArielCallista]

can you give anymore detail on the gown? sleeve length or any detailing thats on it...that might jog our memories...

[Lady Rebecca]

As far as I can remember, it had the standard turned back overskirt, and the sleeves were about elbow length, a little full, and with lace at the bottom.

[operafantomet]

Okay, I've been scouring the internet for over an hour, and can't find a pattern I know exists. It's an out-of-print pattern, I believe made my Simplicity (it's definitely one of the big 3). It's the only pattern any of the big 3 has made for the 17th century, and I know the picture on the front is of a yellow gown. Does anyone have any idea what I'm talking about?

Was it a mantua or a "corseted bodice" dress? I seem to remember there were a dress based on the pink V&A 17th century stays, and one based on an extant mantua. These are the stays I'm referring to:
http://www.drakt.org/Renaissance/Stay.html

Reconstructing History has pattern for both garbs, but if it was from one of the big three... Hmmm. Need more clues.

[operafantomet]

As far as I can remember, it had the standard turned back overskirt, and the sleeves were about elbow length, a little full, and with lace at the bottom.

OK, sounds very much like a mantua, then. ( http://aneafiles.webs.com/mantua.html ). Mantua, and a yellow dress on the cover. That should narrow the search down a lot!

[ArielCallista]

So this is probably not it...but this is the only historical gown at all that I could find that fit most of your description...It's a civil war gown, but as for yellow, a big 3, elbowish length sleeves that are a little full with lace at the bottom...

I thought of this one instantly because I really like it. I just need a use for a civil war gown.

http://www.simplicity.com/p-1793-costumes.aspx

[operafantomet]

Can it be this "Pirates of the Caribbean"-ish one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330448820768


ETA: or this mantua one?
http://www.reconstructinghistory.com/rh708-1690s-1710s-mantua.php?s=&c=22&d=36&q=1&p=7&w=21

[Lady L]

http://www.reddawn.net/costume/costpat.htm

pattern review site

[Lady Rebecca]

Lady L, thank you so much! This is the one I was thinking of - I guess the sleeves aren't full -

Of course, unfortunately, it doesn't look like it can be easily modified to fit the period. I really wish I could find a bodice pattern that has the 17th century seaming and neckline without paying an arm and a leg for it...

[Dinobabe]

Why don't you try combining patterns you have.  I do it a lot to get the exact look I want.

[Lady Rebecca]

Yeah, that's probably what I'm going to wind up doing. And I know there's a tutorial online about how to alter the seaming in the front. I just wish one of the big 3 would make a pattern with the funky 17th century seaming, since that time period seams so underappreciated...

[Lady L]

You are very welcome, Lady R.