Camping @ TRF

[Rani Zemirah]

No fire required.  Just hang....and drop.   

Yeah, see... the problem comes from the fire on the OTHER end... when it HITS!!!  They tend to frown on death and dismemberment on the grounds (somewhat unfortunately, at times).   

[Fenster]

Checking the TRF FB page there seems to be a company DJ? that's been advertising huge partys at the campgrounds.  TRF says they are aware and on top of it....

Here's the link to the DJ that sets up out there link]http://plancast.com/p/7ap3/official-renaissance-festival-dance-dance-field-rave-bedlam]link.

[Tink]

Just read this post on facebook:

Friend that just got out there said.

"Officer at the gate said if the ravers show up this weekend, they'll be asked to shut it off or leave."

Huzzah!

[Nina]

So glad to hear that security or at least the ones at the gate are aware of the raver issue and it is great they plan to do something about it.  But the music was the least of the problem on opening weekend.

Brendan, we were among those assaulted by the naked drug crazed idiot that came into our camp.  I thought or hoped we were camped far enough away from trouble.  We certainly didn't go looking for it, but it sure found us.  We dont mind the normal camp frolic and sounds, had even brought ear plugs in case it did get too loud.  Now we will feel that we must be on alert at all times.  On the bright side, we are going to try it again this weekend.  I hope we are making the right choice.  Seriously considering family camp area, away from friends, but will go on walkabout and visit then go back to what we hope will be a safer area. Have you figured out where you will be camping and where do you feel it is safe?

[FaeHollow]

That link made me sick.

[SolRac]

Well i know from first weekend the cops were out ALL NIGHT LONG. I doubt there will be any issues hopefully gl everyone.

[crashbot]

That is out of hand and I sure hope something gets done about before something really bad happens.

By saying I haven't had any issues, I wasn't downplaying the problem. Simply saying I haven't experienced much other than a few bothersome people that are easily dealt with. I have only been camping out there for 4 years and of that only 1 weekend per season. Statistically, I would expect someone that has been camping near 20 years and multiple times per season to have a laundry list of things they have had to deal with. Mixing crowds of people with booze and little security is a recipe for trouble and I agree LE needs to be more proactive.

It is probably safe to say camping in the path to the fire circle and/or being generally larger groups tend to attract more asshats? People trolling around the grounds see 10-15 people around a fire and walk over thinking "hey, there is a party"...invited or not.  Which ruins it for everyone, as I would like to walk around and meet people, but I dont want to be mistaken for one of these people and the more this stuff happens the more likely that will be.  I'd rather not have to view anyone that walks up to my camp with suspicion. 

As for the mortar tube, if you need an FO, i will volunteer. I loved my job and would like to do it again for a good cause. 

[LadyJessica]

Checking the TRF FB page there seems to be a company DJ? that's been advertising huge partys at the campgrounds.  TRF says they are aware and on top of it....

Here's the link to the DJ that sets up out there link]http://plancast.com/p/7ap3/official-renaissance-festival-dance-dance-field-rave-bedlam]link.

Here's what I just posted on their site:

To whomever plays their music loud (not just your group):  I have been camping out at faire for the past 15 years and I can honestly say that in the past several years I have seen a steady decline in the camping experience.  When I first started camping there was NO fire circle and no permanent drum circle. The drum circle moved and wove in and out on different camps, it had a rhythm all its own.  If we were asked to quiet down we'd stop drumming and find a different area to drum in, but the circle almost always broke up around 2 am.  There may have been a lone drummer playing but the quiet rhythm lulled me to sleep.   When the fire/drum circle became permanent the drumming ha d a good beat that you could dance to and, if a little ways away, would once again lull you to sleep.   Then the "partiers" came...not necessarily ravers...in fact we used to call them "Frat boys".  They were usually college kids, mainly guys, that came out because they heard that the women get naked out by the fire circle.  Then they started to play their music too loud but when asked they'd say "Sorry ma'am," and turn it down to the point that only they could hear it.  About four years ago another DJ thought he'd bring out his set up, it included large "sails" and colored lights and techno music but even then you could only hear it within the campgrounds itself.   When 2 am came around and they were still going, security made them shut down.  They didn't come back after the third weekend.  Three years ago a "Frat boy" decided it would be funny, in his drunken state, to fill a mini keg with propane and throw is on the bonfire.  So you see it's not just you but a culmination of years that have steady gotten the Rennie's ire up.  You just happen to have an outlet for some of us to post your frustrations. 
You say that your music was not loud after 2 am and that there were others that had music louder...did you ever take into consideration that their music may have been louder to try to drown you out?  You say that you got to see people out at the campgrounds that you haven't seen in ages...did you stop to think that the same thing is happening all around you?  That this may be the only time that some people see each other and it may have not been easy for them to hold a conversation.  You say that you did not bring the drugs but you do have to be aware that your "unforgettable night full of lights, love, and BASS!!!" will usually attract that type of crowd.  I personally was not their but I have friends that live within two or three miles of the faire and let me tell you they COULD hear the music, it may not have been coming from your set up but you were at least a small part of it.   While you may think you turned it down I hate to tell you that a normal voice can and will travel out in the countryside, increase that to a speaker fueled bass and it will travel for a good long ways.  I enjoy camping!   I only see some of my friends the one weekend I get to camp out there.  I would love to hear some drums at night but only those fueled by human hands not pumped up and amplified by a generator and speaker.  You say that we should show you some respect and come and meet you before we hate.  I'm not hating but asking kindly to see if you can't have a gathering that won't cause my friends to have seizures from your lights (I have a few friends that are epileptic) , to get your bass through the work of your own two hands.

[SirRichardBear]

we use to use a product made out of skunk spray to hide our scent during deer hunting you only used a drop or two the stuff was amazing strong.    Think that maybe a balloon full of the mixture of water and the whole bottle of skunk spray thrown into their midst might get their attention enough for them to turn the noise level down a little bit?    

[Rani Zemirah]

Except that once they're gone, the smell will still be there... and if there's a breeze, no telling which direction it may waft. 

[SirRichardBear]

Balloons full of tomatoe juice for afterwards?   You could always load it into water pistols and walk around spraying them.  Oh god we did that one hunting season when we got to drunk Sat night in those days you couldn't hunt on Sunday blue laws you know so Sat after hunting was drinking night.  Funny now not so much so then.

[MrHyde]

If you would like the DJ to stop it is rather easy.  Terre.... have the TRF legal department draft him an invoice for hosting an event in the TRF campgrounds on those evenings.  Advise him in the letter that accompanies it that further incidents will find him in small claims court for payment of the bill.

[Nina]

Some very good points Lady Jessica.  Not sure if that will change their minds, because they seem to be blaming other people already for the loudness, etc.  Sadly the actions of a few selfish people are making it hard for all the others to enjoy themselves peacefully.  Don't get me wrong, i like to party too, just not in ways that infringe on someone else's party.  I am betting if security succeeds in taking away the exceedingly loud music maybe the drug crazed people wont find it such an attractive venue?

[crashbot]

I don't understand what gives someone the right to advertise a "rave" on private property without the permission of the owners of said property. If something was to happen, which is seems more and more likely it will, TRF I assume would be legally liable. You would think mgmt would want to put the kabash on this sort of stuff in a hurry.

[Breandan]

when in doubt, bagpipe 'em