anyone with home electrical experience- help

[Auryn]

Hi
i am sure someone here has experience doing electrical wiring in the home.
I need a little help.
We rent a nice house that has a bit of land- the property is split in half- the landlord rents the other half of the property out to people with horses- there are stables on the other half of the lot.
Problem is- the electrical to the stables runs off of our meter/electricity.

The landlord just kinda guesstimates how much the stables use- this doesn't sit well with me
- 2 weeks ago the stable ppl threw a party and ran all their equipment off the main electrical line- they blew the breakers 3 times.
She is only charging them $20 for the whole month in rent- they also run water pumps and radios off our power.

I know they make small meters that you can attach to separate power lines - at least I am pretty sure they do.
Anyone have any suggestions or can point me in the right direction??

I need a solution that costs under a couple hundred bucks as the landlord is strapped for cash- I can guarantee her solution is going to be for us to pay for it and take that money out of the rent we pay her

Any suggestions appreciated
We just moved into the property- we just completed 1 month- and I want to nip this in the butt before it gets out of hand and precedents are set

[Ferret]

Call your electric company for ideas or help.

Ferret

[Auryn]

They said to call a contractor
the two that we have talked to are nuts- want to charge $1000 + to install a single-line submeter

[dbaldock]

Is there one big breaker in your box feeding power to a breaker box at the stable?

If so, add a meter at the input to the stable breaker box.

Don't know how much that would cost for the hardware, but the wiring could be done by "you", if you can get an Electrician to sign off on it before turning the power back onto the stable.

It's something I could probably do in an afternoon.

One issue is that the power company meter reader may not read sub-meters that you install youself.  So, you'd have to keep up with the readings and figure out the charges attributed to the stables.

Take Care,
David Baldock

[Auryn]

Thanks David
There is no breaker box at the barn- the owner installed a large separate box on the outside of our house with the line running to the barn- made it very annoying that they kept asking me to go flip their breakers on.

I've been doing reading online and looking at equipment.

I figured a small meter
and a solid core current transformer would be the easiest way to go.

The problem is all the local electricians I know are marine guys, thats why I figured I would ask here first.

What do you think of this meter and ct??

The CT
http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=34155&minisite=10231
The meter
http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=34121&minisite=10231

[dbaldock]

So they're running several circuits (aerial or underground) from the house to the stable?

The "best" thing to do would be to put a sub-main 2-phase cut-off breaker switch w/meter at the house, and then run one high current 2-phase line to a breaker box at the stable.

[dbaldock]

Thanks David
There is no breaker box at the barn- the owner installed a large separate box on the outside of our house with the line running to the barn- made it very annoying that they kept asking me to go flip their breakers on.

I've been doing reading online and looking at equipment.

I figured a small meter
and a solid core current transformer would be the easiest way to go.

The problem is all the local electricians I know are marine guys, thats why I figured I would ask here first.

What do you think of this meter and ct??

The CT
http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=34155&minisite=10231
The meter
http://www.leviton.com/OA_HTML/ibeCCtpSctDspRte.jsp?section=34121&minisite=10231

OK, back to a regular PC and off of my Tablet - so I can more easily follow links and type replies.


First question is basically the one I asked above: How many circuits are being run from the house to the stable?
Second question: Are all the circuits Single-Phase, or are any of them Two-Phase?
Third question: Are you willing to buy a Meter/Transformer set for each circuit?


If there are several circuits running from house to stable, it may be cheaper to do what I suggested above:

1) Run one 2-phase cable large enough to carry the current for multiple circuits from the house to a breaker box at the stable.  (you may be able to sell the previously run smaller cables, for re-use)
2) Install one of the 2-phase Meter/Transformer sets to monitor all of the power going to the stable.


Take Care,
David Baldock