Bodices (pairs of bodies) with sleeves?

[gem]

Extreme Costumer Laura Mellin has a wonderful ensemble on her site, of a blue linen PoB with tie-on sleeves. See it here. I love this look, but this is the only place I've seen it (that I can recall). Does anyone (Isabella? ) have other examples, maybe in period artwork? I gather this is quite late in our period (early 1600s) from the fact that she's worn it as an interpreter at Jamestown.

I have some leftover pink damask linen from my corset, and I'm toying with the idea of making some sleeves with it, but before I launch myself into this project, I'd like to do a little more research.

Sightings?

Gramercy!!

[CenturiesSewing]

Preview from the upcoming Seventeenth-century Women's Dress Patterns: Book Two:  http://issuu.com/vandapublishing/docs/17thcenturydresspatterns close up pictures and pattern! The pink silk stays with sleeves are listed as 1630s.

Might want to hit up http://www.elizabethancostume.net/qewu.html Queen Eliz. Wardrobe uploaded. I don't recall any pairs of bodies with sleeves that were not included with a gown of some sort but the list is huge.

[isabelladangelo]

Drea Leed has a few pictures up on her site.

One of my favorite go to pictures for bodices in period
is the Fete at Bermondsey from 1569.  You'll see a LOT of different outfits in that painting of a lot of different social classes.  It's fabulous.   However, I don't recall seeing sleeves on any of the bodice/skirt combos.



This one is a bit confusing.  It's by Paris Bordone & entitled 'Cleopatra'.  It looks like it's a bodice over a green dress, rather than a bodice/skirt combo but the bodice/jacket has sleeves.

German style bodice, skirt, and sleeves

The lady sitting down at the picnic has sleeves attached to her bodice This is from 1603, I believe. 

In most of the cases I've seen, the sleeves match the color of the skirt - maybe off a shade or two but the same "color".   The sleeves might be faded or a darker shade in comparison to the skirt.  This also all seems to be later - very late 16th going into the 17th C.  I know in the 17th c, there are some deliciously gorgeous examples of sleeves being the same color as the bodice - and the same material.  The fabulous pink stays from the mid 17th C come to mind. 

[Lady Kathleen of Olmsted]

Here  is an example of a 17th Century Stays with sleeves..









http://oldrags.tumblr.com/post/19468225346/stays-and-busk-1660s-england-the-v-a-museum

[Sev]

I am by no means an expert on this topic, but as soon as I saw the topic name I was gonna spam pics of the pink stays... figures I'd be beaten to the punch! They're possibly the most beautiful extant piece of garb I've ever seen, and I absolutely NEED -- yes, NEED (I'm sure everyone on this board needs no convincing of this fact, though, haha) -- to make a reproduction.

Also, I'm pretty sure I have several more photos of those stays, different angles and such, as well as (I think) a drawn diagram. If anyone's interested, I'd be happy to dig them up and post them! <3

[Lady Kathleen of Olmsted]

Just imagine for a moment that this was sll done by hand! The hours it took, not to mention the percision in the stiching.

Totally amazing.

[Butch]

I lover her stuff!  (Laura Mellin).  She is where I got the idea for how I decorated Michael's green doublet with the double rows of gold ribbon!  Very inspirational, she is!