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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2012, 12:16:53 PM »
 The article mentioned that if the skeleton is Richard's, he will be 'reburied with appropriate ritual'.
   I am hoping that will not mean he will be stuck back under the parking lot.   I didn't see any mention of making the site a permanent site to be visited. 
  I wonder where Richard (if it is him) will end up?
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« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2012, 12:28:04 PM »
The Richard III Foundation are already calling for him to be buried in his native York, which is, I feel, only appropriate.

Time for King Richard III to “Come Home to York”, says Foundation
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2012, 12:42:55 PM »
  Yes, I was hoping he would be buried in York Minster.  I took some video there in '09 when we stopped in York on the way to Edinburgh.
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2012, 05:33:03 AM »
Still making news,
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012/09/19/skeleton-could-prove-coup-for-maligned-king-richard-iii/57809640/1
Richard Ibsen has been identified as the descendant of Anne of York.
Its possible that if the skeleton is indeed Richard III, there may already be an agreement in place for him to be buried at Leicester Cathedral.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/09/13/richard-iii-grave-leicester-burial_n_1880668.html
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2012/09/richard-iii-a-ceremony-fit-for-a-king/
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #34 on: September 27, 2012, 10:33:06 AM »
A piece on the descendent of Richard III's sister Anne, the man whose genetic profile quite possibly holds the key to this archaeological mystery.

Richard III dig: From cabinet-maker to kingmaker
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #35 on: September 27, 2012, 10:46:39 AM »
"A number of manuscripts belonging to Richard III, which include a prayer book, a guide on how to be a good king, and literary texts in three languages have survived. These books show him as a learned, devotional and cultured medieval monarch", says historian Michael Wood.

He believes these texts are the only way of "getting behind the Tudor myth… When you look at the manuscripts you forget Shakespeare's legend of the hunchback which dominates everyone's imagination".

"He was a legitimately crowned king so the Tudors had to portray themselves as successors delivering the country from a wicked tyrant. The image of him as wicked is entirely spawned by Tudor propaganda.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-19572103

Michael Wood is the historian who also brought us The Story of England on PBS where they take the village of Kibworth and tell the history of England through one town in Leicestershire.

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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #36 on: September 27, 2012, 07:22:21 PM »
I believe I mentioned this little tidbit in a previous thread, but Henry was able to pull off this major usurpation of the crown and have Richard declared traitor by dating his reign from august 21st instead of august 22nd.  The 22nd was the actual date not the 21st.  But by doing this he made Richard the traitor by warring on the King(Henry).  He could also declare anyone that fought for Richard a traitor and thereby sieze their lands.   And they had the nerve to call Richard devious  Ha.
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2012, 02:46:43 PM »
A rather fascinating article on the Greyfriars, and how they became intertwined with Richard III.

Richard III and the Lost World of Greyfriars

The contributor's novel looks like an interesting read, as well.
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #38 on: October 03, 2012, 04:50:37 AM »
Interesting reading. December is going to e a long wait.
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #39 on: October 03, 2012, 06:12:23 AM »
I thought he was buried in a backyard in suburban Detroit. Oh, wait, no, that didn't pan out.

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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #40 on: October 03, 2012, 04:58:53 PM »
JIMMEY NOT RICHARD.
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #41 on: October 05, 2012, 08:52:09 AM »
An online petition for Richard to be returned to his native York is up and active. Here's your chance to let your opinion be heard.

Link for more information: PRESS RELEASE: YORK PETITION LAUNCHED AS ‘RICHARD III’ DEBATE GOES GLOBAL

For those not big on reading press releases, here's the petition itself: TIME FOR KING RICHARD III TO COME HOME TO YORK
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #42 on: October 05, 2012, 08:59:38 AM »
Richard should go home to York. He loved it there.

I just read The Goldsmith's Wife by Jean Plaidy about Jane Shore, mistress of Edward IV and brother of Richard.
In the end, she supported the theory that Henry Tudor was responsible.

It was written in 1950 and an excellent read.
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2012, 07:16:24 AM »
One cannot discount the fact that Sir James Tyrrell, the loyal servant of Richard III who is said to have confessed to the murder of the princes in 1502, could have been paid for his confession by Thomas More.
The Queen has resisted all calls for DNA testing of the bones in the urn, which is even more odd since DNA testing is being done on bones suspected to be Richard III.
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Re: The search for Richard III
« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2012, 07:47:54 AM »
Well I believe we can discount it.  More did not begin his 'History of Richard III'  until 1505.  So what reason would he have had to pay Tyrell for any info 5 years before he was involved in the whole mess.  I am inclined to discount any info coming from the
"sainted(?) More".  Certainly none of his writings on R.III could be considered contemporary.  True he was alive at the time of R.III, but he was 6 years old when Richard died at Bosworth.  Also he was H VIII historian.  If he wanted to keep his head he would say nothing approaching the truth about Richard.  One only has to read his garbage to realize that.  Supposedly he(Richard) spent 2 years in the womb, came out full grown covered in hair, with teeth and hunchbacked.  Of course he lost his head anyway so much good it did him.
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