Contemplating a new Playtron dress

[LadyStitch]

Sounds to me like you have a few different projects!  Personally, I would love to see the Cossack coat!  It would be warm enough for our goofy fall Texas weather and can be easily removed when it warms up.    A fun steampunk seamstress would awesome too.  It would blend right in at our faires!  And you could wear that coat over it if it gets cold....    ( and I think that corset is awesome!)

My original concept drawing for the Lady Stitch garb was for her to have a coat of some sort that was covered in sewing implements, and pockets with sewing things in them.  (Am i the only one who could see other rennies come up to me or being told to find me if they have a garb malfunction? ) I like the idea of the Coassak coat for the coat to go over everything, that way I could layer. No sense for the PP to be the only one wearing a 'couch' on cold days. 

So the coat option is settled. On to the dress,  should it be one piece or two piece? And if one piece, any suggestions on pattern? I have S1773, but it has a zipper. B4827 has a laced back but will it be a hinderance under that corset.

Trillium,  It was made by a wonderfully sweet recycled leather worker, named CC Guice. She runs A Wench in the Gear.   She believe is reusing things.  All her corsets, hats, and other items she makes from discarded, and 'destroyed' leather items.  Her favorite is getting her hands on a ruined leather couch that some one is throwing away.  None of her pieces are identical for that reason.  Funny enough we found her online, but she lives a mile from the house I grew up in.  You can look her work up online, or on facebook.

[isabelladangelo]

I think you are trying to complicate this a bit.  :-)  Too much will look like too much.  Here is an example of a Steampunk Tailor:

DSC01215 par Isabella, on ipernity

His hat is a sewing machine.  :-)

I've also seen a lady that did a bustle skirt that had a false front.  She could flip open the false front to show a whole bunch of clear pockets that held her cell phone, keys, ect. 

[PollyPoPo]

 (Am i the only one who could see other rennies come up to me or being told to find me if they have a garb malfunction? )

Nope; I was just thinking that myself. 

[LadyStitch]

(Am i the only one who could see other rennies come up to me or being told to find me if they have a garb malfunction? )
Nope; I was just thinking that myself. 

I actually had it happen at Rendevous 3 years ago.  I kept getting stopped to help with garb problems even at the hotel.  I didn't complain. I got free beer

Trust me if you think this outfit is complicated you don't want to see some of my other projects in works One of which will involved about 100 buttons and button holes

[mollymishap]

Isn't it fun?  A lot of 18th Century portraits and figures show some pretty crazy patchwork.  I was trying to find the extant jacket I know of from the mid 18th Century that is completely insane with patches.

Is it the one made from bits of cream and green cut-velvet? I was thinking about that garment while reading this thread and then I read your post...I know I've seen that somewhere--maybe in a book--it's going to bug me now until I can find it...

[LadyStitch]

On to the dress,  should it be one piece or two piece? And if one piece, any suggestions on pattern? I have S1773, but it has a zipper. B4827 has a laced back but will it be a hindrance under that corset.

Since we settled most of this, I still need opinion on what style of dress to make from the wool.  Rust colored 10-12 oz wool.  Suggestions on pattern?

[gem]

Stitch, walk us through your new plan. How are you envisioning the rust wool dress? Do you want it to go with the leather corset somehow? In that case, maybe something like Simplicity 2172? (More of a suit than a dress, really.) I have seen gads of these made up, and it always seems to turn out really sharp.

...Or were you thinking of something that would go with your new partlet? Like a kirtle with sleeves? (Having trouble combining partlet + non-H/A; sorry!)

...Or perhaps you need a dress to wear under the Cossack coat. In which case maybe one of the Big 4 LOTR patterns? Simplicity and McCall both put out Eowyn/Arwen patterns that would look lovely in wool.

[isabelladangelo]

Is it the one made from bits of cream and green cut-velvet? I was thinking about that garment while reading this thread and then I read your post...I know I've seen that somewhere--maybe in a book--it's going to bug me now until I can find it...

I honestly can't remember.  All I recall is that it was an 18th Century patchwork jacket.  :-)

[LadyStitch]

Stitch, walk us through your new plan. How are you envisioning the rust wool dress? Do you want it to go with the leather corset somehow? In that case, maybe something like Simplicity 2172? (More of a suit than a dress, really.) I have seen gads of these made up, and it always seems to turn out really sharp.
...Or were you thinking of something that would go with your new partlet? Like a kirtle with sleeves? (Having trouble combining partlet + non-H/A; sorry!)
...Or perhaps you need a dress to wear under the Cossack coat. In which case maybe one of the Big 4 LOTR patterns? Simplicity and McCall both put out Eowyn/Arwen patterns that would look lovely in wool.

My mind is some where in here. http://butterick.mccall.com/b4827-products-6120.php?page_id=385 with the the corset over it. Or http://sewing.patternreview.com/patterns/55695 View C.   http://sewing.patternreview.com/patterns/4459 View B dress I like, but I detest those hanging sleeves. http://sewing.patternreview.com/patterns/1799 I like view3 C on this but the way the collar is made is detestable to make.  I had to make a customer a red velvet gown of this and the collar never did turn out right.  Then again that was 8 years ago.

My only concern is how will a zipper react under a corset?  My previous dress was the base dress from this pattern. http://www.amazon.com/Simplicity-Size-RR-14-Renaissance/dp/B009NI7TXG

[gem]

Ok, I think I see where your mind is at... perhaps some help envisioning a fantasy-medieval ensemble in orange?



...And the same chemise, several years later:



I can easily see your leather corset fitting right in! (This is the most basic of basic chemises--elastic neckline, raglan angel sleeves. I think there was a Big4 pattern about 10+ years ago... I want to say a girl in yellow with a cropped blue bodice? You might have something in your stash.)  I think one of the things that works about this is the angel wing sleeves. All that flowiness just asks for a hard element to help control it.

[LadyStitch]

Yes I do have that pattern in my stash... I think.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/131147772150?lpid=82  Is that the one you were thinking of?

The dress is for warmth, so the angle wings wouldn't work but the other long sleeves might.  But, can you see from the neckline why I might want a partlet on it?

[isabelladangelo]

I still think something more like this Cranach dress would be better.  You could do the skirt as different panels of fabric like this dress and it would be warm.

[Rani Zemirah]

My mind is some where in here. http://butterick.mccall.com/b4827-products-6120.php?page_id=385 with the the corset over it.   http://sewing.patternreview.com/patterns/4459 View B dress I like, but I detest those hanging sleeves.

My only concern is how will a zipper react under a corset?

M'LadyStitch, the body of these two particular dresses that you posted seem similar to my admittedly untrained eye, with the major difference being mainly the sleeve?  I think this silhouette would be lovely with your leather corset!  So if you prefer the fitted sleeve, especially if added warmth is your goal, then could you use the sleeve portion of the Butterick 4827 pattern with the rest of the Simplicity 4940 pattern to create the exact gown you're wanting?  And instead of  fussing with an awkward collar you could always just make a separate partlet for the neckline... maybe even made of patchwork? 

I think that with your skills you could do away with a zipper opening, if it were called for in the pattern, and create a lace-up opening, so you wouldn't have to worry about having a zipper under your corset.  I agree that might not be very comfortable! 


I know you said no hoops, but what about a very full patchwork petticoat?  I could also envision your amazing corset over something like this, with just a slightly less full skirt:

(only with the fitted sleeve, instead of the bell sleeve, of course)


In the rust, of course... but maybe you could make the front inset from patchwork?  I think the square neckline would be lovely with a partlet, as well. 

The Armstreet "Medieval Dress with Corset Belt" might also fit the style you're going for:



It has a bit of a higher neckline, but could also work with a partlet, I think... and would be just as beautiful with an overbust corset as with the shorter underbust. 


I also ran across this photo of a coat that would be pretty with these styles:




It looks like a medium weight linen, maybe, so it wouldn't be too heavy... but it could be made from a heavier weight, or even a wool, if you were wanting something for those really chilly Sherwood mornings. 

[LadyStitch]

In look previous projects, I am thinking I may go with Or http://sewing.patternreview.com/patterns/55695 View C.  I like the neck line.  And there is something about those buttons on the sleeves that I like.  I got my hands on button loop tape. and bulk little pearl buttons.  The loop tape is what is done with the back of wedding dresses.  No more dealing with little bits of cording!  Then with buttons in bulk, no hunting for 12 cards of the same button. 

I'm half tempted to do the zipper in the back, because either way the corset over other  grommets is going to bad as well.  thoughts?