Following Orders

[Richard de Graeme]

Statuesque indeed...rigid...as stone.

[Sir William Marcus]

*Patiently waiting for Sister Hatchets reply*

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Indeed!

[Richard de Graeme]

Oh knowledgeable ones of all things Templar,

Whilst we wait pensively for FF's response; in Kingdom of Heaven - the Director's Cut (which I watched recently) there are two striking scenes (among the many) in particular: 1) The aftermath of the Battle of Hattin, the aerial view of the carnage and the vultures picking over the remains of the fallen. Unable to find a photo of that scene. 2) When Balian arrives at his Father's house and enters the hall, there is a mural on the wall of dancing skeletons with an inscription loosely translated as "AS WE ARE, SO SHALL YE BE". What is the exact quote in Latin and the English translation?

All Blessings be upon thee, thy kith and kin.

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

I have not found the phrase you mention anywhere (AS WE ARE, SO SHALL YE BE), but it could have been a twist on another theme by Mr Scott: (As ye sow, so shall ye reap-or- Ut sementem feceris ita metes). He was heavily criticized for his clouded portrayal of Christians and Muslims.

I will look into the movie ASAP.

[Femme Falchion]

Statuesque indeed...rigid...as stone.

I do try not to be too unyielding Frère Verdigris, for as we all know "flexibility masters hardness"   

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

[Richard de Graeme]

Point well taken, Sister of Spring Fires, a crack...nay...a break would be most painfull.

[Richard de Graeme]

I have not found the phrase you mention anywhere (AS WE ARE, SO SHALL YE BE), but it could have been a twist on another theme by Mr Scott: (As ye sow, so shall ye reap-or- Ut sementem feceris ita metes). He was heavily criticized for his clouded portrayal of Christians and Muslims.

I will look into the movie ASAP.

Thank thee WM. I am quite sure of the quote in it's relation of those living, soon to join the dead. Now I have an excuse to watch KOH-DC again.

[Sir William Marcus]

Oh knowledgeable ones of all things Templar,
Unable to find a photo of that scene. 2) When Balian arrives at his Father's house and enters the hall, there is a mural on the wall of dancing skeletons with an inscription loosely translated as "AS WE ARE, SO SHALL YE BE". What is the exact quote in Latin and the English translation?

Wish we could of helped, as we too have put forth effort to try and discover this mystery quote.  After a prolonged investigation we have come to the strong conclusion that it nothing more than something fabricated for that particular scene.

Hopefully frere Cliff may discover something to shed a light on this mystery quote.

[Richard de Graeme]

Thank thee for thy effort Sir William. I will watch movie again.

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Is this the one you seek:

Nemo vir est qui mundum non reddat meliorem: no one is a man who does not render the world better.

I didn't have the chance to look into the movie last night, but will have an answer for you by Monday at the latest.

[Richard de Graeme]

No, not the one. By "his Father's house" I meant Godfrey of Ibelin's house in the Holyland. Balian enters the Hall and sees the mural, and to the best of my memory, recites the Latin as the English translation appears on the screen.

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Thanks, I have the DC and will look into this matter.

BTW, nice avatar there Brother William. Cape pins looking good!

[Marcus of Ibelin]

I've watched the DC many times.  I wont even look at the theatrical version.  Richards recitation of the quote is near dead on from what I recall.  I remember the scene of which he's asking.  It's the scene when Balin first arrives at Ibelin.The wall border along the top of the room with dancing skeletons.  I took it to mean the same thing, that eventually everyone dies.