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Started by Monsignor de Beaumanoir, May 08, 2008, 09:53:02 AM

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Richard de Graeme

#2340
Marcus, what you speak is true. The Directors Cut ties things together and is far superior to the theatrical release in my humble opinion.

"For it is the doom of man that they forget."
NE OUBLIE!
Purveyor of dubious wisdom
Player of spoons
Herbalist

Sir William Marcus

#2341
Quote from: Warrior_Monk on May 06, 2009, 09:59:52 AM
BTW, nice avatar there Brother William. Cape pins looking good!

Thank you brother. 



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Marcus of Ibelin

And I'm digging that awesome riveted mail!

Very Nice!!


Be without Fear in the face of Your Enemy
Be Brave and Upright
Speak Truth
Safeguard the Helpless
That is Your Oath

Richard de Graeme

Quote from: Marcus of Ibelin on May 06, 2009, 11:08:04 AM
Richards recitation of the quote is near dead on from what I recall.  I remember the scene of which he's asking.  It's the scene when Balin first arrives at Ibelin.The wall border along the top of the room with dancing skeletons.  I took it to mean the same thing, that eventually everyone dies.

As the Hospitaller said to Balian when leaving for the Battle of Hattin, "All Death is certain."
"For it is the doom of man that they forget."
NE OUBLIE!
Purveyor of dubious wisdom
Player of spoons
Herbalist

Sir William Marcus

Its been awhile, and now that I'm having flashbacks I guess I should break out the DC myself. 
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Monsignor de Beaumanoir

#2345
Quod Sumus Hoc Eritis is a Latin phrase for " as we are you shall be ", reminding us all of the continuous circle of life.

It and the visuals in KoH, can be seen in the famous Danse Macabre.



Danse Macabre (French), is a late-medieval allegory on the universality of death: no matter one's station in life, the dance of death unites all. La Danse Macabre consists of the personified death leading a row of dancing figures from all walks of life to the grave, typically with an emperor, king, youngster, and beautiful girl—all skeletal. They were produced to remind people of how fragile their lives and how vain the glories of earthly life were. Its origins are postulated from illustrated sermon texts; the earliest artistic examples are in a cemetery in Paris from 1424. (clearly outside the realm of possibility for the 1187 time frame of the KoH scene- Ridley Scott taking liberties with history)

Sir William Marcus

#2346
Most excellent! I knew you if there was a source you would discover it.
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Marcus of Ibelin

Quote from: Warrior_Monk on May 06, 2009, 05:51:56 PM(clearly outside the realm of possibility for the 1187 time frame of the KoH scene- Ridley Scott taking liberties with history)

But he's NEVER done that before!  ::)
Be without Fear in the face of Your Enemy
Be Brave and Upright
Speak Truth
Safeguard the Helpless
That is Your Oath

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Quote from: Marcus of Ibelin on May 06, 2009, 08:20:52 PM
But he's NEVER done that before!  ::)

Yeah, everything from Hollywood should be accepted as the Gospel truth...... :P ;) ;D

Sir William Marcus

Quote from: Warrior_Monk on May 06, 2009, 05:51:56 PM
It and the visuals in KoH, can be seen in the famous Danse Macabre.

Its funny as I'm all to familiar with the Danse Macabre although I never made that connection
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Richard de Graeme

#2350
Quote from: Warrior_Monk on May 06, 2009, 05:51:56 PM
Quod Sumus Hoc Eritis is a Latin phrase for " as we are you shall be ", reminding us all of the continuous circle of life.

It and the visuals in KoH, can be seen in the famous Danse Macabre.



Danse Macabre (French), is a late-medieval allegory on the universality of death: no matter one's station in life, the dance of death unites all. La Danse Macabre consists of the personified death leading a row of dancing figures from all walks of life to the grave, typically with an emperor, king, youngster, and beautiful girl—all skeletal. They were produced to remind people of how fragile their lives and how vain the glories of earthly life were. Its origins are postulated from illustrated sermon texts; the earliest artistic examples are in a cemetery in Paris from 1424. (clearly outside the realm of possibility for the 1187 time frame of the KoH scene- Ridley Scott taking liberties with history)

Bravo WM. Well Ridley's poetic license is well accepted, providing an incite for Godfrey's character and hence the development of Balian's. The Bones of All Men are the brick work of history. Quod Sumus Hoc Eritis! The theme of Religion vs Holiness threads throughout (the film and life) and is well discussed, with license or historical accuracy. Once again, your scholarship and time expended is well appreciated. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcOZmtbLRP0&feature=related

Here is a recording some may enjoy (it is available for purchase through Amazon):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bones_of_All_Men

All Blessings be upon thee, thy kith and kin.
"For it is the doom of man that they forget."
NE OUBLIE!
Purveyor of dubious wisdom
Player of spoons
Herbalist

Marcus of Ibelin

Well started the chain mail weathering today.  The coif's been in it's vinegar bath for about 2 1/2 hours now.  Its bubbling away!
Be without Fear in the face of Your Enemy
Be Brave and Upright
Speak Truth
Safeguard the Helpless
That is Your Oath

Sir William Marcus

Like a chain maile fizzy
VENI, VIDI, VELCRO! Spelling and grammatical errors are beyond my control, it's the way I'm wired.

Marcus of Ibelin

It's definitely like that now!  It started off pretty slow, but now its really going to town and is nice and cloudy.
Be without Fear in the face of Your Enemy
Be Brave and Upright
Speak Truth
Safeguard the Helpless
That is Your Oath

Femme Falchion

#2354
That was a fun game of "Stump the Monk"....I look forward to the next.   :)



QuoteI'm all to familiar with the Danse Macabre

If you don't mind me asking Brother William, what is your connection to the Danse Macabre
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