Following Orders

[Lady Christina de Pond]

  Templar Rule 70.) On Sisters
that the flower of chastity is always maintained among you.

ROFL men having flowers of chastity   that just made my day ROFL

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Mine smells quite nicely!

[Femme Falchion]

"Chastity is a monkish and evangelical superstition, a greater foe to natural temperance even than unintellectual sensuality; it strikes at the root of all domestic happiness, and consigns more than half of the human race to misery."

Shelley

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Update:

In Jewish, Christian and Islamic religious contexts, acts of sexual nature are restricted to the context of marriage. For unmarried persons therefore, chastity is identified with sexual abstinence. Sexual acts outside or apart from marriage, such as adultery, fornication and prostitution, are considered sinful.

In the context of marriage, the spouses commit to a lifelong relationship which excludes the possibility of sexual intimacy with other persons. Chastity therefore involves marital fidelity. Within marriage, several practices are variedly considered unchaste, such as sexual intimacy during or shortly after menstruation or childbirth.

The particular ethical system may not prescribe each of these. For example, within the scope of Christian ethic, Roman Catholics view sex within marriage as chaste.


Counsel still in session.

[Lady Christina de Pond]

Update:

the particular ethical system may not prescribe each of these. For example, within the scope of Christian ethic, Roman Catholics view sex within marriage as chaste.


Counsel still in session.

i concour

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

After a marathon extended session, the council has changed the Lady Femme's status from visiting dignitary to senior Panjandrum, with a clause for continuance to Grand Panjandrum should the occasion arise. Welcome to the team.

[Sir William Marcus]

However, to avoid losing my visiting dignitary status with the Knights, I withdraw any further discussions that may endanger your "flowers"

    Are we not blind? Do we not see what has happened here? Words written by the hands of frere Hugues de Payens, his blessed Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, and Saint Benedict have discouraged and withdrew this demon who possessed the Lady Femme. This demon who attempted to tuant us with talk regarding to pleasures of the flesh has been revoked by the words set forth by the our founding brethren. It is clearly another victory of good over evil. Welcome back Lady Warrior!

Deus lo Vult!

[Sir William Marcus]

Sir Martin

   As frere Cliff has already provided you with excellent source of information for your journey.
Please allow me to continue to repeat with a few more ideas & suggestions towards the warrior path of righteousness. 

Do you consider the "Templar Set" by House Morningstar a good choice?  The surcoat and burnoose should provide some flexibility for the vagaries of Texas weather.  Is there, however, another surcoat/burnoose vendor I should consider?  Is the cross emblazoned on this set not preferable?
http://housemorningstar.com/crusadertemplaritems.html

When choosing a set stay away from black trim. Templar habits were just white or an off white unless you were a sergeant in the order. Then Black & brown is your choice. As for the cross, make sure it is placed over the left chest to assure you of a more noted historical appearance. Cross selection is your own personal preference. Although, a popular cross, and the official cross represented by a majority of the members on this forum, AND NOT to mention the most visible cross during the time of the crusades was a " Greek, potent, 3 tab, triangular" proudly displayed below..







HouseMorningstar
Earlier this year "James" (co-owner) of Morningstar was experiencing some personal problems especially with unexpected passing of his wife as one could only imagine.  He appears to and IS getting back on track and currently has about a one month waiting period for most garments. He is currently working on our burnooses now, and as far as his work I personally recommend him.

As for headgear ... what would work best for warm weather?  Would you prefer a nasal helm or simply a coif?  What would be your vendor of choice here?  If a coif would be sufficient, what should be worn underneath and where might that be acquired?

1. Arming Cap
2. Chainmaile Coif
3. Nasal Helm- gotta have a helm!


1. Arming cap - Just a simple white linen or cotton arming cap is all you need. Usually you can find them for $10.00 from most merchants.

2. Chainmaile coif - When your at an event and the time comes to remove your helm, a chainmaile coif will still allow you a most noble look.  I highly recommend (and if your budget allows) going with "riveted flat rings" you can usually find several  good merchants on ebay selling them  for around $125.00. 

Note: If you go and buy butted rings your eventually going to want riveted (trust me you will)

3. Nasal helm - Nasal helms are a nice bucket, they look very cool and the maidens love them. They will allow you to drink, eat and basically function without removing your intimidating headgear, you won't bake to death either.  You can get into a decent Nasal helm for about $60.00. There is seller on ebay that has already provided us with 4 of them without complaint.
Once again, ebay is a great source to find a great looking helm on a knights payroll

 

What to wear under the surcoat for a faire that is mostly warm weather?  I find cold weather less challenging as it is always possible to layer insulation underneath the prime garb.  Would a chainmaile bernie/shirt be necessary or is there another acceptable lightweight item that would look good under the surcoat? 

If you choose a sleeved robe like the one from the "Soldier of God" collection (which I have personally logged many hours in)

http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=169




or the Templar robe that fra Joseph Lamar is displaying below from Morningstar...



..you can get away without a wearing a chainmaile hauberk because visually with a sleeved robe no one would ever see your hauberk or know your even wearing one!  Now, you can save a little coinage and walk around all day feeling little lighter.

However, if you have decide you want to go with a surcoat, then you might consider a chainmaile hauberk.

A sword and scabbard would be the next necessity.  I don't need performer/fighting class spring steel, just something that looks nice and will not fall apart if it is taken off the wall hanger.

There are many options however, I have been eyeballing this particular piece for a while now. It appears to be a good piece of steel for its weight in gold!

http://www.imperialcoinc.com/Shared/IP-003b.html



If you need any detailed info please feel free to contact us



Pax Vobicum

[Femme Falchion]

Meanwhile....back in the virtual Temple Keep..activity abounds.

In an effort to maintain Femme Falchion's diverse and valued (yet dangerous) presence among the Brothers, a special closed door emergency session of the council has resulted in bestowing Femme Falchion with a perfunctory title while plans to covertly facilitate an exorcism are underway. 

However, FF cannot be located.  Squires bring word.  Following what appears to be the squelching of serious insurrection in the Grove (the young sires refused their midday slumber) FF has departed for "official" duties in the countryside;  a family asks assistance in a birth, fall crops require blessings, an "attitude adjustment" for a husband in his cups, and a band of traveling gypsies are in need of a good latke recipe.

In a brief note, FF reminds the respected council that she trusts when solicited to join this gathering of warriors it was to provide a multiform and unique female perspective which may indeed serve to strengthen the stolid resolve of the good Knights of the Orders.  She further suggests that the noble Knights may find discussing opposing positions to be quite energizing.

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

The Lady's request for imput in this thread was thought to help broaden the viewer base and serve as an Affirmative Action Plan [1] amendment to the Rule.
While the Council of Nine fully understands that life continues on while they are in session, they hope that the thread flock realizes that they not be present when fair and impartial judgment is handed down. [2]

As for : an "attitude adjustment" for a husband in his cups........
By the Almighty's thunder where I could go with this.......

And: In a brief note, FF reminds the respected council that she trusts when solicited to join this gathering of warriors it was to provide a multiform and unique female perspective which may indeed serve to strengthen the stolid resolve of the good Knights of the Orders. [3]  She further suggests that the noble Knights may find discussing opposing positions to be quite energizing.[4]


[NOTE 1]: Motivation for affirmative action is a desire to redress effects of actual or perceived, past or current discrimination that is regarded as unfair.

[NOTE 2]: Nothing less could be expected when the 'Y' chromosome deliberates.

[NOTE 3]:   Rule 71. Let Them Not Have Familiarity with Woman

We believe it to be a dangerous thing for any religious to look too much upon the face of a woman. For this reason none of you may presume to kiss a woman, be it widow, young girl, mother, sister, aunt or any other; and henceforth the knighthood of Jesus Christ should avoid at all cost the embraces of woman, by which men have perished many times, been forced to attend prolonged shopping expeditions, provide a large an solid shoulder for them to weep upon when venting about non related items, pay support for offspring, the list of charges goes on and on,  so that they may remain eternally before the face of God with a pure conscience and sure life.

[NOTE 4]: Energizing would not be the word here, challenging would be appropriate, and as Warrior Monks we enjoy the challenge, and follow in the example provided by the church in the Albigensian Crusade when they sent clergy to conduct debates with the misguided soon to be heretics, before military action was taken. Even St Francis debated with the Saracen to prevent the further effusion of bloodshed, before Frankish steel showed the infidel the errors in their ways.

[Femme Falchion]

FF returns with a new pious and chaste visage.  **Indeed, the brainwashing exorcism has been successful!!!.....at least for the time being**

Thank you most venerable and wise Council of Nine.  I have so much to learn **FF is forced to stop speaking as she grabs the nearest Knight to cry on his shoulder and inadvertently blows her nose on his tunic**

As for : an "attitude adjustment" for a husband in his cups........
By the Almighty's thunder where I could go with this.......

just for clarification....and I can't believe I missed it....this is not the spirit in which the statement was intended.   

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Thank you most venerable and wise Council of Nine.  I have so much to learn **FF is forced to stop speaking as she grabs the nearest Knight to cry on his shoulder and inadvertently blows her nose on his tunic**

It's actually a Council of a solid 3, but possible 4 or 5 in the near future, with the
goal of 9 like the original set up.

blows her nose on his tunic**...aaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh!

just for clarification....and I can't believe I missed it....this is not the spirit in which the statement was intended.   

And just how was it intended? But be careful, your words will be scrutinized for any heresy directed at the 'Y'! 

Another member of this distinguished thread thought you must be a Lawyer with your last post...

[Femme Falchion]

the attitude adjustment that I referred to, righteous Council, required that my boot make contact with the backside of a dishonorable, heavy-handed man, taken to excessive drink...a godless heathen as well, I am sure of it. And furthermore, **FF is again overtaken by sobbing** he criticised his wife's meal preparation.

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

 

I can only assume that this wasn't a member of the fortress, and that the crucifix was planted with sufficient force in the cranial housing unit to help convert the lost soul....

[Sir William Marcus]

I can only assume that this wasn't a member of the fortress, and that the crucifix was planted with sufficient force in the cranial housing unit to help convert the lost soul....

Aye, as this one hopefully assumes as well.