Layering lacing?

[GirlChris]

I'm in major planning stages for my next gown- specifically, a tudor noble gown from the inside out. Eep!

I've come up against a problem that has me scratching my head a little. I want to be able to dress myself. Though I can- and have!- laced myself into back lacing gowns (it takes a lot of wiggling) I really prefer front lacing. So here's my question- can I have both the corset/kirtle/whatever lace in the front, AND have the gown lace in the front? Or is that just going to be uncomfortable?

Any thoughts or opinions would be really appreciated.

[PrincessSara]

The gown in the Tudor Tailor laces in the front, then the lacing is covered by a placket.  Do you have a pattern already, or are you still looking for one?  Cause I think the Reconstructing History pattern is done like that.  You might be able to make the kirtle front lacing, but it might mess with the underskirt cause you'd have to have a skirt opening in the front.

I'm also in the planning stages of a Tudor noble ensemble.  Are you going to try and get yours done for the September faire?  I'm thinking about stepping up my pace and trying to get one done by then. 

[gem]

Well, there's also the option of having at least one piece lace in the sides.  One of the three kirtle patterns in Tudor Tailor does this.  Also, there's a kirtle that is basically just a back attached to a skirt--no front to the bodice at all--so that completely eliminates an entire layer of lacing. 

Have you seen the new Margo Anderson Tudor?
http://www.margospatterns.com/Products/TudorLady.html

[operafantomet]

If you're going for a boned kirtle and a dress you have the option of side and front lacing. Jean Hunnisett has a rather good pattern on such a front  laced gown with a placket overneath (from the "Period costume for stage and screen" series - her patterns are underrated), but it can also be found elsewhere.

In any case, you WANT  to check out Eva's 1565 Lyon gown:
http://web.comhem.se/~u41200125/TempledeLyon.html

She wears a front-laced Effigy corset, a side-laced "Eleonora" inspired kirtle and a front-closed gown. A piece of art!

[gem]

Anea, THANK YOU for that link!!!  I immediately see some changes I can make to the Promenade mockup that I think will help.

[act2redux]

Well, there's also the option of having at least one piece lace in the sides.  One of the three kirtle patterns in Tudor Tailor does this.  Also, there's a kirtle that is basically just a back attached to a skirt--no front to the bodice at all--so that completely eliminates an entire layer of lacing. 

Have you seen the new Margo Anderson Tudor?
http://www.margospatterns.com/Products/TudorLady.html

WOWZAS!!  I really want that one!   I won't have the extra $$ any time soon, but thanks for the heads up!

[GirlChris]

I'm also in the planning stages of a Tudor noble ensemble.  Are you going to try and get yours done for the September faire?  I'm thinking about stepping up my pace and trying to get one done by then. 

I would love to be able to wear this for the September faire, but as I'm on cast I have to wear what they tell me

Well, there's also the option of having at least one piece lace in the sides.  One of the three kirtle patterns in Tudor Tailor does this.  Also, there's a kirtle that is basically just a back attached to a skirt--no front to the bodice at all--so that completely eliminates an entire layer of lacing. 

Have you seen the new Margo Anderson Tudor?
http://www.margospatterns.com/Products/TudorLady.html

I was looking more at a supportive kirtle, so I'd need the front. I hadn't honestly thought about side lacing- I'll try that in a mockup to see how it fits. Oh, and I SO want the Margo Tudor patterns, but I'm not sure if I can justify it to myself since I'd probably only make the one gown.

If you're going for a boned kirtle and a dress you have the option of side and front lacing. Jean Hunnisett has a rather good pattern on such a front  laced gown with a placket overneath (from the "Period costume for stage and screen" series - her patterns are underrated), but it can also be found elsewhere.

In any case, you WANT  to check out Eva's 1565 Lyon gown:
http://web.comhem.se/~u41200125/TempledeLyon.html

She wears a front-laced Effigy corset, a side-laced "Eleonora" inspired kirtle and a front-closed gown. A piece of art!

That's what I was looking at- supportive kirtle, front lacing gown, placket. Also, that is VERY pretty. But a kirtle AND a corset? Too many layers for me!