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Title: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: Monsignor de Beaumanoir on December 14, 2009, 11:38:10 AM
Can somebody tell me where I might find a helmet such as this, or employ someone of such skill to fabricate one based on special dimensions?

(http://i45.tinypic.com/28v7uhf.jpg)
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: Chris B on December 15, 2009, 07:31:03 AM
http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=69

I bet Allan would leave the nasal off and make it to your specs....Message him and ask.
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: Monsignor de Beaumanoir on December 15, 2009, 07:38:43 AM
Thanks, a message has been sent. ;D
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: SleepyArcher on December 15, 2009, 12:13:03 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/VIKING-CELTIC-BARBARIAN-HELMET-All-Metal-Helm-Spike_W0QQitemZ360214368120QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53de730f78#ht_3952wt_941


I found this that you could probably take a few things off it and make it look like that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Steel-VIKING-BARBARIAN-BEOWULF-HELMET-Helm-New_W0QQitemZ380184640664QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5884c53c98#ht_3400wt_941

I also found this, it looks like they modeled that one after something of the Vikings?
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: Monsignor de Beaumanoir on December 15, 2009, 12:58:05 PM
Your first choice would require a lot of work when compared to the second one. Both have the deciding issue when it comes to decisions for me...........internal circumference at the brow of 24". >:( :'(
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: ALS on December 15, 2009, 01:33:49 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/VIKING-CELTIC-BARBARIAN-HELMET-All-Metal-Helm-Spike_W0QQitemZ360214368120QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item53de730f78#ht_3952wt_941


I found this that you could probably take a few things off it and make it look like that.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Steel-VIKING-BARBARIAN-BEOWULF-HELMET-Helm-New_W0QQitemZ380184640664QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5884c53c98#ht_3400wt_941

I also found this, it looks like they modeled that one after something of the Vikings?


The first helmet, is actually cast, while there appears to be steel rivets holding the fraom together and plates in place, if you look at the inside pic theres no trace of them just the few brass rivets holding the nasal. Given that it is states as being made from all metal but is cast, it likely that its not steel but some sort of pot metal. This would concern me as a project helm as pot metal can be brittle so there is risk of cracking during the removal of the nasal and replacing of the missing rivets with new ones.

The second helmet is steel, but with the blackened finish of indeterminate origin ( is it painted, is it powder coat , a heat or chemical induced color? ) it may not be the best " first project " helmet. It is likely that there would be some contact with tools and/or working surface that may mar the finish and depending on how it was produced may not be able to be touched up to your satisfaction without special equipment or sending it out ( power coat ).
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: SleepyArcher on December 15, 2009, 05:30:25 PM
Another option would be to find out who made the movie and contact that place. Find out who did the costuming and such.
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: ALS on December 16, 2009, 09:02:31 AM
It very possible that the armour in the film is mostly cast resin pieces as that is becoming increasingly common in film making these days. I poked around on the internet a bit and found nothing referencing an armourer getting credits in the film. Next time I talk to Mikey at Albion ( they made all the swords for the movie ) i'll ask if he knows wheather and armourer was on staff or not.
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: Monsignor de Beaumanoir on December 16, 2009, 10:03:43 AM
Stephen Ralphs was the armorer I belive. He's also online for working the 2010 Robin Hood movie, and has some other major flicks on his resume.
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: ALS on December 16, 2009, 11:38:48 AM
Arhcery seems to be Stephen speciality and his filmography is huge. He has worked on virtually any flick where anything like a bow and arrow was used. I've been to Steve's site and he has only the bows he makes listed there ( theres no gallery of armour ) so while he is listed as the armourer in the credits and did the gear for the film it seems that his archery gear is what he offers for sale. His prices are reasonable from what I saw by the by.
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: SleepyArcher on December 16, 2009, 11:43:01 AM
What is the site? I would like to check it out please.
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: Sir William Marcus on December 16, 2009, 11:59:36 AM
Stephen Ralph is without a doubt the "go to armorer" for some incredible productions including, Gladiator, 13th Warrior, King Arthur, KoH, Troy and Arn just to name a few.
Title: Re: Crusader "Brain" bucket
Post by: ALS on December 16, 2009, 02:13:03 PM
Steve's site http://www.steveralphs.co.uk/web2.html