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Started by Monsignor de Beaumanoir, May 08, 2008, 09:53:02 AM

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Sir William Marcus

#2910
By chance has anyone seen this pic posted from the "Southern California Pleasure Faire"


Photo: Irelandraven

To cool!
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Lady Christina de Pond

Helmswoman of the Fiesty Lady
Lady Ashley of De Coals
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Sir William Marcus

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Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Quote from: Sir William Marcus on October 27, 2009, 08:16:15 AM



Photo: Irelandraven

To cool!

I like how the apparent senior Brother of the group chose the Robert de Sable tunic and copper coif, to stand out from the Bretheren.

They have accomplished what I've hoped to accomplish, now I want to do it in bigger numbers!!  Deus vult!


BTW, does your Brother know of this last advertisement effort? :P

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

#2914
New Book Alert!

As you know this is the effort that helped make the Templars famous as they took charge of the army and got it to safety.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1846033543/ref=pe_606_13458300_pe_ar_t1


And just a side note:

A device no Warrior Monk should ever be without, in case you're giving baptism to a Saracen or something.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_water_sprinkler_(flail_weapon)#Holy_Water_Sprinkler


Sir William Marcus

#2915
Quote from: Warrior Monk on October 27, 2009, 09:23:07 AM
I like how the apparent senior Brother of the group chose the Robert de Sable tunic and copper coif, to stand out from the Bretheren.

Absolutely, nicely done.  Along with his tankard he even carries a goblet or a "graaaail" perhaps??   Which is something I have recently added to my inventory as well  ;) :D


Quote from: Warrior Monk on October 27, 2009, 09:23:07 AM
BTW, does your Brother know of this last advertisement effort? :P

Oh yeah! He was the one that pointed out his "ShamWow eye" on the way home while reviewing the days images. I got a laugh out of it and had to follow up on it!
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Femme Falchion

Quote from: Sir William Marcus on October 27, 2009, 10:58:06 AM
Along with his tankard he even carries a goblet or a "graaaail" perhaps??   Which is something I have recently added to my inventory as well  ;) :D


You're carrying a vessel off your belt now?  Is that sanctioned by DOBA?  Departing from the historically accurate into a bit of fantasy?
Domina Virago
Grand Mistress of the Order of the Hatchet
Mother Confessor
Sister of the Spring Fires

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

#2917
Mother Confessor, you brought up an interesting point, so I thought I'd look into the facts here. Did folks carry cups(vessels..unless you were asking if he had a boat hanging from his belt) during the times of the Crusades.

Here is what I've found (and I'll be playing the Role of the Orders' Advocate as well)

Quotes from the book: People of the First Crusade:

Indeed, we suffered so badly from thirst that we sewed skins of oxen and buffaloes, and used them to carry water these six miles. We drank the water from these leather sacks, though it stank, and what with this foul water and coarse barley bread we distressed and afflicted every day.

The lack of water was a serious cause of weakness and disease, and Raymond of Aguilers gave another bleak pictured of the water starved army:

When the water did flow in the Pool of Siloam, so many hurried to drink there that men were trampled underfoot..................Many sick people collapsed by the spring, with swollen tongues unable to utter a word, only able to hold out their imploring hands for water.....A cup of foul water was sold for five or six valuable coins, and still thirst was not quenched.

Remember that this was all during the First Crusade 1095-1099. The Military Orders didn't really launch until  1120 and onward. So here goes:

They did develop a sort of "wine skin" as seen in the first paragraph. They also had cups during this time frame as witnessed by the 2nd Paragraph. I would think most likely it was carried close to the spot of the spring, seeing as conditions there had folks trampling each other to get at the liquid. I can't see someone walking away with a full skin and not getting bothered for it. Now, the folks who could protect their "take" (might makes right) probably sold the water at something close to what's now seen as a primitive lemonade stand in the Outremer.

With all this taken into consideration, I would figure the Warrior Monks, being the most experienced of all the Military might in the region, would have noted and learned from those hard earned lessons of the 1st Crusade. So would a Warrior Monk out in the field carry a cup to help quench his thirst during encounters with watering points of opportunity...hhhhhhhmmmmm...not beyond the realm of possible.

As for the Grail...well that's a well known secret, and it's stayed that way, because when they told someone, they had to kill em....thus perpetuating the secret............

Lord Magnus

Quote from: Sir William Marcus on October 27, 2009, 08:07:33 AM
Unfortunately, Joe didn't make it along with several others we were hoping would of been there.  As of the Friday prior we actually didn't think we was going to go either. Then the night before we we decided to go for it.  We wished you could of been there as well M'Lord.  Come next year we will have to coincide our visits for sure. 


Yeah I couldnt make it either... I ended up having to work Saturday but was off Friday and Sunday.. ( wtf..  >:( )
"What God abandoned, these defended,
  And saved the sum of things for pay".

SirMichael

Greetings Warrior Monk,

I recieved your message today and will be honored to attend your thread.

I am a Knight Commander in the Knights of Jerusalem. I am currently on a quest from my King. I am protector and escort to the Princess Emma of Fayetteville. My home Faire is the Great Lakes Medieval Faire in Ohio. The Princess ( my daughter) is 9 years old and is also known to be a Fairy Princess ( from her Mom's side). Being a man trained in the art of war, there are many things I do not understand about the fae, but I have taken the sacred oath Of the people...For the people! I will Protect the weak, defenseless, helpless and fight for the general welfare of all and my King. I work for the love of work and strive for nothing short of perfection in my quest. I respect all orders of Knights and have fought beside many.

I wish thee and all fellow brother Knights well on this day.

Sir Michael of Mentor
Knight Commander & Escort to Princess Emma.
Knight Commander - Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulchre of Jerusalem 
Pontis Mori Quam Foedari - Deus Lo Vult!

Lord Magnus

Latest Book Im reading is called "Crusade Against the Grail" The Struggle between the Cathars, Templars and the Church of Rome.
The first English translation of the book that reveals the Cathar stronghold at Montségur to be the repository of the Holy Grail

• Presents the history of the Papal persecution of the Cathars that lies hidden in the medieval epic Parzival and in the poetry of the troubadours

• Provides new insights into the life and death of this gifted and controversial author

"Crusade Against the Grail is the daring book that popularized the legend of the Cathars and the Holy Grail. The first edition appeared in Germany in 1933 and drew upon Rahn's account of his explorations of the Pyrenean caves where the heretical Cathars sect sought refuge during the 13th century. Over the years the book has been translated into many languages and exerted a large influence on such authors as Trevor Ravenscroft and Jean-Michel Angebert, but it has never appeared in English until now.

Much as German archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann used Homer's Iliad to locate ancient Troy, Rahn believed that Wolfram von Eschenbach's medieval epic Parzival held the keys to the mysteries of the Cathars and the secret location of the Holy Grail. Rahn saw Parzival not as a work of fiction, but as a historical account of the Cathars and the Knights Templar and their guardianship of the Grail, a "stone from the stars." The Crusade that the Vatican led against the Cathars became a war pitting Roma (Rome) against Amor (love), in which the Church triumphed with flame and sword over the pure faith of the Cathars."

http://www.amazon.com/Crusade-Against-Grail-Struggle-Templars/dp/1594771359/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256686306&sr=1-1


Havent finished as yet, however the book is very interesting. Rahn's style of writing is similar to Tolkien in that he is over descriptive of many things. But the book is very informative and I must say an interesting read considering he was an SS agent during WWII.
"What God abandoned, these defended,
  And saved the sum of things for pay".

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Interesting Lord Magnus (Master of Turcopoles  ;) ) the last books I read on the Cathars was: A Most Holy War and The Albigensian Crusade.

http://www.amazon.com/Most-Holy-War-Albigensian-Christendom/dp/0195171314

http://www.amazon.com/Albigensian-Crusade-Jonathan-Sumption/dp/0571200028/ref=sr_1_1/181-4277946-6969445?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256687651&sr=1-1

SirMichael, do you perhaps have a rendition or visual likeness of your persona that you would share?

Monsignor de Beaumanoir

Purchase Alert!

No Preceptory or Outremer fortress is complete without the following utensil to write and sign assignment orders, Papal Bulls, or an every now and again excommunication writ!

http://www.designtoscano.com/product/code/CL43712.do?code=PDINCLUDE&code=DTFROOGLE#

Sir William Marcus

Quote from: Femme Falchion on October 27, 2009, 12:58:25 PM
You're carrying a vessel off your belt now?  Is that sanctioned by DOBA?  Departing from the historically accurate into a bit of fantasy?

Historically accurate for me at faire is along time coming.  It is gods will that it be all fun & games!

Quote from: Lord Magnus on October 27, 2009, 05:44:54 PM
Yeah I couldnt make it either... I ended up having to work Saturday but was off Friday and Sunday.. ( wtf..  >:( )

Did you get my PM? I thought for sure you was going to be there.   I told my sir Josef well just surprise him and you was a no-show as well...dang it! Some of the Outlanders told me they have been messing with your schedule really good at work, sorry to hear that brother.  Anyways, the castle gathering is in a few weeks?!?
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Sir William Marcus

Greetings Sir Michael!

One can relate to your responsibilities. I too have provided escort to a fae princess known as "Sarah of McCordia" for several years running. It has and continues to be one of my most highly prized services. Welcome aboard my fellow brethren!

Pax Vobiscum

SWM
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