Show me Orange

[Sorcha]

So I found some great fabric at SR Harris this past weekend.  It's a orangey color with a gold brocade pattern to it.  The pattern itself it a bit big for a bodice but it would look great on a men's doublet.  Maybe with some black or cream trimmings??  I'm looking for ideas and I'm having some struggles finding "orange" examples. 

Anyone have Men In Orange portraits or photos?

On another note....  Am I struggling because it wasn't called "Orange" then?  Could it have been called something else?  Along the lines of, Pink also known as Red?

[Anna Iram]

I've no pictures for you, though I have seen men and ladies in a russet orange and I think it looks great. I have an awesome pice of fabric in orange that's just dying one day to become something. Looking forward to seeing yours.

Here's a list of color names for you.

http://historicalnovelists.tripod.com/rencolor.htm

[operafantomet]

So I found some great fabric at SR Harris this past weekend.  It's a orangey color with a gold brocade pattern to it.  The pattern itself it a bit big for a bodice but it would look great on a men's doublet.  Maybe with some black or cream trimmings??  I'm looking for ideas and I'm having some struggles finding "orange" examples. 

Anyone have Men In Orange portraits or photos?

On another note....  Am I struggling because it wasn't called "Orange" then?  Could it have been called something else?  Along the lines of, Pink also known as Red?

Orange would most likely have the name of the dye used to give it its colour. But the name "tawney" comes to mind.

Which style(s) are you interested in? I mostly do Italian Renaissance, so that's the reference material I have. But on the other hand, I have a lot of it...

[Sorcha]

Great link Anna Iram!  Bookmarking it now.  Thanks

I was thinking of using Margo's Elizabethan Men's pattern for the doublet.  But I find it difficult to follow directions.   

I found this:
http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/Leicester3.jpg
But it's a bit out of my time/skill level.  So lovely though.

[gem]

There are gads of Italian women in orange, like these fine Florentine ladies:

http://www.festiveattyre.com/research/florentine/flor11.html

[DonaCatalina]

Here we go again with how things look on the web versus real life.
Portait of Lucrezia in person is fruity orange and deep sage green.

Benedikt von Hertenstein is wearing a pale orange-peachy color kid of like sherbet.

Queen Anne is wearing orange dress with red embroidery.

Joris van Zelle is wearinf a dull orange brick color that some people might color rust

This portrait by Domenico Puligo looks like orange, but even in person its hard to tell if its yellowing from the varnish.

[Dirtfarmer]

Depending on the tone of orange, try a lighter blue as I did on my last... if you go with a darker blue you'll make the man in the doublet look like a UVA student, but the lighter blues seem to stand out well.

[operafantomet]

Is it red? Is it orange? Is it pink? You decide... But that one use darker reddish trim on lighter salmon (?) fabric, quite cool:
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/men/MoroniGentlemanPink.jpg

Orange/red (tomato coloured, hehe) outfit, and I think the fabric is pinked:
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/men/MoroniJacopoFoscarini.jpg

[DonaCatalina]

Is it red? Is it orange? Is it pink? You decide... But that one use darker reddish trim on lighter salmon (?) fabric, quite cool:
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/men/MoroniGentlemanPink.jpg

Trust me- this one is pepto bismol pink in person.

[isabelladangelo]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jubileel/4535251766/in/set-72157623890187932/

Very orange dress in person

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jubileel/4535251272/in/set-72157623890187932/

Sorry the picture is blurry.  It was awesome to see her stomach wrap and the way the chemise fit but I couldn't get a good picture.  At least the colors came out!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jubileel/4534683709/in/set-72157623890187932/

See the man in the back with the orange tunic and the blue hat?  There is a lot of orange, red, and pink together in this painting....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jubileel/4535363818/in/set-72157623890187932/

Pink and orange in this one...

[isabelladangelo]

Bump!

[operafantomet]

Modern and historical definitions of colours often clash. What we see as pink, they described as red. What we see as orange they described as yellow. What we see as dull brown they saw as expensive purplish brown. And so on.

Still, I tried to put together a gallery of various colours from Italian 16th century dresses, ranging from brown through pink, red, orange and yellow to green, blue, black, white and grey. Orange and golden shades was often referred to as "lionata" in Italian. It's apparently the colour of the dress Isabella of Aragon was buried in.

http://aneafiles.webs.com/renaissancegallery/colore.html

[gem]

Lionata! That's marvelous!

This is Titian's 1539 portrait of Francis I. Again, it's iffy on the "true" color (is that orange? Salmon? Pink?), but it's lovely to think that it might be orange, and would be magnificent recreated in vivid orange silk.



I'm in the earliest early stages of planning a new ensemble for Milord, and orange is his favorite color, so I'm definitely looking for inspiration on this front.

[operafantomet]

That one would definitely look smashing in a rich orange shade!

Whatever you settle for, I think you should avoid the worst orange-orange colours. Go for reddish orange, golden orange or "lion coloured" (lionata). These are richer shades which both looks and (from what I can tell) are more period.

[gem]

In my head, I'm picturing pumpkin orange velveteen, or a darker rust/russet... something. Renaissance Fabrics has had some lovely orange-family wools and velvets in the past, so if I start haunting sources now I'll probably find something yummy.