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wanting to find a pattern for arbian puffy pants

Started by kala83, October 11, 2010, 04:08:45 PM

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kala83

I don't know what these are necessarily referred to as but if you have ever seen Disney's Aladdin they are the type of pants he wears that are slim at the top and roundly puffy at the bottom if anyone know of some patterns that ca help me make a pair that would be awesome.
sorry if this kind of thing has been asked about before I was not sure how to a topic search but if there is another thread, just point in the right direction.

DonaCatalina

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Dinobabe

The Big 3 have several versions.  Look in the costumes.  Mainly for women but easily adjusted. ;)
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Taffy Saltwater

They are called sirwal.  Here's an interesting article w/a pattern on page 13.  When I lived in Jordan many years ago, I saw village women wearing these - especially older women as they are a more traditional item of clothing.  http://katjaorlova.com/FemaleTurkishGarb.pdf
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Rani Zemirah

Oooooh, nice link!  I've been wanting Turkish garb for ages, and this will fill out my ideas nicely!  Thanks, Taffy!!!
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Adriana Rose

For herem pants I use the simplicity pattern. Its super easy to make, nut I do raise the waist about 3in because they are LOW riders.

In fact I trim them down and use them for bloomers or some I havent put elastic in the ankle cuffs and they are very comfy pants.

good luck

isabelladangelo

The harem pants as in I dream of Jeannie are a basic wide leg pant with a gathered cuff.  Use any PJ pattern to achieve the look.  I don't want to say they aren't period because I do recall one manuscript with a depiction of them (I think Persian?) but I do know they are not common and yet another "But Hollywood told me they dressed this way!" ism. 

The link Taffy provides, has a pattern for period styled pants.  They are very similar in construction to Italian drawers of the same period (probably with good reason).  You can see some of the extant examples here with the drawers on either side of the middle one being similar construction.  The middle pair are most likely pants which were also worn beneath gowns but there is evidence that some courtesans wore only the pants with a shirt and pair of bodies.   

kala83

lol wow this topic grew a lot more then I expected it to in just an evenings worth of time.
but totally love all the info.

I am sure I will be getting started on making some lovely new garb...soon. ...I even have an idea of what fabric and color I want.

quick question with these patterns you all gave would using cotton fabric be okay?

lol if so must make not to self to go and get cheap wal-mart fabric before yet another store loses to the stupid cooperate BS. -_-grr

kala83

Quote from: Adriana Rose on October 11, 2010, 11:11:32 PM
For herem pants I use the simplicity pattern. Its super easy to make, nut I do raise the waist about 3in because they are LOW riders.

In fact I trim them down and use them for bloomers or some I havent put elastic in the ankle cuffs and they are very comfy pants.

good luck
sorry to ask kind of a semi dumb question here but do you know what the pattern # might be? the issue for me is I have so many simplicity patterns its hard to keep track of them all...lol and I don't want to run out buy a new pattern that I have no real need for.

DonaCatalina

#9
I think they may be referring to Simplicity pattern 3626.
Cotton should work just fine.

(oops typo)
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#10
I think you mean 3626.  Simplicity 3826 is an evening dress!


I like Simplicity 5359.  And use cotton gauze.
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Rani Zemirah

I have Simplicity 5359, and I've been wanting to use it for ages, but I'd have to alter the sizing, and that always makes me nervous. 
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Adriana Rose

I use 5359 and its a good pattern to use.

I use the circle skirt as a good ol' stand by, I add more panels in the skirt than it calls for though depending on how full I want the skirt.

The vest is simple and it works great for kiddos too

kala83

I've been wanting to make a vest like that for quite sometime myself but o be perfectly hones the whole outfit of the girl wearing is quite lovely too (main photo on 5359)
the other pattern looks fairly similar to what I wanted I will admit I am just mentally noting that the waist I was envisioning would be slimmer, and the legs a bit more puffy...is there a way to make that work with this pattern? not sure if I own 3626 but I can keep an eye out for it.

operafantomet

Quote from: Dinobabe on October 12, 2010, 03:24:27 PM
I think you mean 3626.  Simplicity 3826 is an evening dress!


I think they should have more width in the lower part to get the right look. Like these:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_iXwdWzsjFLo/S1e3LLpdEmI/AAAAAAAAD2E/Z-TTbcpoJMc/s1600-h/HAREM-PANTS.jpg

The ones in the patterns seems to modern, somehow... or is it just me?