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Help dress Milord in kind... (brainstorming!)

Started by gem, August 21, 2011, 04:41:06 PM

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gem

Who wants to help me brainstorm some new upperclass garb for Milord?

Now that my purple ensemble is essentially complete, I've decided that Milord needs an outfit of equivalent station. And though I designed mine to be mostly H/A, that's much less of a concern for Milord. I just want him to look snazzy!

Here's what I have:


It passes nicely for mid 16th C. Florentine, but as I said, it's not essential (or even necessarily desirable!) for Milord to match me in period/region. I'd love to hear what ideas folks have--portaits, photos, pattern suggestions--have at it!!

Here's a shot of Milord in one of his Sofi's Stitches doublets:



You can see, he nobs up nicely! But he hasn't had anything (noble-ish) in years.

Ideas? Hit me!
Thanks!

Betty Munro

He needs a brocade doublet.  Maybe in black if it's not too hot where your faire is.  That would really make your gown pop next to him.  If you could trim it in lavender to match your gown all the better.  I'm not much for those puffy pants and hose.  I much prefer to see men in tall leather boots.

operafantomet

I know I always post this, but.... Purple and black breeches (actually, maybe black with purple semi broad trims), a white shirt with blackwork, and a cool plumed hat.... WOOOOOT! You'd be the hottest couple there.




And Gem, OMG!! That finished dress is just magnificent - it looks spectacular in an understated way. My favourite trait.

isabelladangelo

http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/ThomasGresham.jpg

Something like this?  You can add matching purple trim to the black around the edges of the long doublet.

DonaCatalina

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Butch

A black brocade doublet with purple sleeves.  Very nice!

CenturiesSewing

I'd stick to the Florentine theme, Cosimo had some nice clothing.

http://www.artflakes.com/en/products/cosimo-i-de-medici-slash-bronzino

Muted brown/purple on my screen could, you could leave off the gold trim and use self fabric snipped along the edges to give it some nice texture rather then bling.

Earlier, Italian-ish feel to it, I've always liked this guy. You could leave off the fur and face it with velvet. http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/UnknownMan27.jpg

http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/workbox/extmenclo3.htm  brocade sleeved cloak




operafantomet

Quote from: CenturiesSewing on August 21, 2011, 11:14:43 PM
I'd stick to the Florentine theme, Cosimo had some nice clothing.

http://www.artflakes.com/en/products/cosimo-i-de-medici-slash-bronzino

Muted brown/purple on my screen could, you could leave off the gold trim and use self fabric snipped along the edges to give it some nice texture rather then bling.

Earlier, Italian-ish feel to it, I've always liked this guy. You could leave off the fur and face it with velvet. http://www.elizabethan-portraits.com/UnknownMan27.jpg

http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/workbox/extmenclo3.htm  brocade sleeved cloak




You're spot on, he IS Italian, painted by Moretto da Brescia. The Elizabethan Portraits site have several Italian portraits in their site, most correctly labeled and some way off. Here's more info on the (possible) sitter:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/28433765@N07/4132924833/

gem

Thanks, everyone!  (Anea, I am *ecstatic* at how it's turned out. Almost makes me not mind how long it took. Sigh.)

Jenn, those are great suggestions! That sleeved cloak is definitely on my to-do list now.  And I think the da Brescia is a gorgeous portrait, but I can't exactly tell what he's wearing under all that fur. Must do more portrait research now.

operafantomet

Quote from: gem on August 22, 2011, 06:12:39 AM
Thanks, everyone!  (Anea, I am *ecstatic* at how it's turned out. Almost makes me not mind how long it took. Sigh.)

Jenn, those are great suggestions! That sleeved cloak is definitely on my to-do list now.  And I think the da Brescia is a gorgeous portrait, but I can't exactly tell what he's wearing under all that fur. Must do more portrait research now.

It seems the outfit underneath is a short sleeved... erm.. I think they're called a saia. Underneath either a doublet, or just separate sleeves, under that again a camicia/shirt. And of course there's short paned breeches and tights. Pretty much like these guys:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/mentuscany/salviati1550scaman.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/renaissanceportraits/mentuscany/salviati1548getty.jpg

The jacket is the same style as Henry VIII wore. It was typical for Northern Italy, as well as England and parts of Germany. You can see Henry VIII in a similar outfit (but more skirted "saia") here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Henry-VIII-kingofengland_1491-1547.jpg/220px-Henry-VIII-kingofengland_1491-1547.jpg

And yes, I am CRAZY about that finished dress. I want!!

DonaCatalina

Young nobleman by Florentine School.
This one is deceptively simple since the decoration is mostly pinking the outer layer of fabric.
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gem

I really like the long vertical lines on this fencing doublet, and think they'd look good on Milord, too. I'm not as familiar with men's patterns as I am women's; does it look familiar to anyone, or was it more likely a custom draft?

DonaCatalina

#12
Hard to say, but it looks like an alteration of the Fantasy Fashions doublet and paned pants.
This doublet was made with that pattern which includes the option for multiple mini-picadils like your photo.
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gem

Thanks! While trying to track down some more FF doublet pix, I ran across an ensemble using this OOP McCall pattern that I have in my stash:



I think I'm liking it a bit more (for this) than their current 4059.

At some point I should probably consult Milord about his preferences! Ha!!

Orphena

#14
Hi Gem,

M'lord goes through the same struggles. If your faire is hot, I would suggest Simplicity 5574 Mens Renaissance Doublet PATTERN (here is a link: http://sew-n-sewpatterns.mybisi.com/product/simplicity-5574-mens-renaissance-doublet-pattern-henry-viii  ) I made the longer one, and m;lord wears it with high boots, and sometimes a pair of slops. I made a square cut coat as well, that he wears until it gets hot, and then reverts just to the long doublet. It is quick and easy for him to get on, which he likes, and fairly cool. I added a couple of extra invisible button / snaps near the bottom to keep it closed, and take care to get the sword belt on properly, and he is usually good to go for the day. The pattern is simple, adds height, and is slimming as well. With slops underneath, it doesn't feel "like a dress", more like a coat.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=10150628327195018&set=t.684600575&type=1&theater

He is on the left.


Here is a different shot, without the slops & bboots, but with the coat:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v18/ShariO/Casa%20Loma%202008/?action=view&current=aIMG_2167.jpg
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