At the campgrounds.....

[xed]

That would be fantastic...
Look, I'm not against anyone having a good time, but there is no reason that the entire camp has to 'enjoy' their music.

As a side note, I caught wind last year of a lady who had a port-a-potty flipped with her inside of it.  I didn't see it, but was warned to keep an eye on my people. *shrugs*  Take it for what its worth.

[Glaodian]

That would be fantastic...
Look, I'm not against anyone having a good time, but there is no reason that the entire camp has to 'enjoy' their music.

As a side note, I caught wind last year of a lady who had a port-a-potty flipped with her inside of it.  I didn't see it, but was warned to keep an eye on my people. *shrugs*  Take it for what its worth.

If someone was to flip a port-a-potty on me or one of my friends, the law need not bother with them.  Just send the coroner.  Somethings, are just taking it too far.

[Taylor Blu]

Well said.  Yes they were set up still but I think they were done by around 2a.m. They were up late Friday. Still going after 4 when I crashed.  They are not all together to bad at the "smoke"circle, and there were some performing going on. Friday I saw hula hoop dancing and some decent drumming on Saturday. I am very happy, Renboots took ALL my pirate beads off my hands(please go check them out)!

[Riot]

Has anyone heard about what happened opening weekend with the two drugged out ravers that were hauled off via ambulance/police  around midnight Saturday?  Not trying to gossip at all. Just asking because we were assaulted by one of them and it made for a really bad camping experience.  Security was very slow to respond, and law enforcement seems unwilling to do anything about it.  Seriously thinking of not camping anymore, just not sure if it is safe anymore at all.  This is the first and craziest thing ever to happen to us.  However, have heard many other people were assaulted by same two guys, apparently high on designer cocktail drugs, and it looks like DA isnt going to press charges?

I was out Opening Weekend, didn't hear anything about them until I got home though. From my understanding there were 3 by the end of the weekend. They have no clue what the drug is, but that apparently it produces a crazy intense high for 30-45 minutes. Then the person is fine, and doesn't even know what they did. I do know all three with at least detained, not sure about 2 of them, but I know one was let go within an hour. I am also not sure of the three,  but again from my understanding one of them they think were "slipped" the drug, and was not voluntarily taken. That is as far as I am able to say, as that information was given to me by 6 different people and it is the only information that match's from person to person. Again, all the information is 3rd hand though and needs to be taken as much.

Editing for Slipped as should be "slipped" as I am unaware of how the drug is administered and therefore do not know how plausible it would be to slipped it to someone unknowingly.

[Lady Laura]

NINA, what exactly did they do to you or others at your camp?  I'm asking because it's just me and another female friend, and my daughter and her friend camping together a lot of the time.  I want to make sure that we are able to handle anything that might occur.

[Austin Gypsys]

Due to the fire ban we won't be camping this year but our plan was to camp in the "family" section just to see if getting away from the ravers would actually give us some sleep! No reason to play that loud at 4am when your not even camping to go inside the faire.

[Fenster]

I still don't know why management puts up with the ravers. Can they really be that big of a source of revenue?

Banning their excessive lighting and music seems an easy solution.

[MrHyde]

I do honestly think that to enter the camping area you should have to check in all members of your party, pay the camping fee required, show the tickets for Faire entrance for every member of the party.  If the member does not have a Faire ticket they have to purchase one at that time to be allowed to enter.  The tickets should be scanned at that time to not allow people to give the ticket to someone else.  A band on the wrist issued at that time to each member.  The TRF beefeaters can then cut the band off when you enter the gate.  If you are attending both days you are issued two different color bands.  These bands are put on you at the entrance when the ticket is scanned.  If security finds someone without a band that person can either pay the full admittance fee at that time or they can leave.

This is Renaissance FAIRE camping.  It is not a KOA.

[Riot]

One of the issues I see with that though are that there are those that come in on Saturday, and not on Sunday. They stick around the campgrounds until sunday evening or even stay until Monday. They don't cause any trouble, they are there for the love of faire and do go in one day, but do to money or what have you they can't go in both days. I'm sure there are other issues with that as well, however the concept is a wonderful idea. I do agree something needs to be done it is just how we are to do it.

[Strange]

Tactical strobes.
Just sayin'.

[Rani Zemirah]

Surround raver camps with vehicles and shine headlights on them and blast car horns at them until they get the idea... and do it early enough in the evening that it won't be waking everyone up. 


I'd rather NOT wear a wristband, or check in and sign my name to anything, thanks...

[Taylor Blu]

Small EMP.

[Fenster]

Small EMP.

I like!

[Strange]

EMP would be nifty, but I'd worry about hosing the gear of people we like.

I was also thinking that while we are blessed with some great photographers who beautifully showcase the best of faire.
Those awesome pics help market TRF, because people want to come and be surrounded by those beautiful people.

What they don't see are the things that we are talking about now... fringers and hangers on that have no intention of contributing to the faire in a positive way, and instead treat faire, and camping in particular, as their personal party venue. Maybe it's time. I'm thinking photos of stoned a$$hats having a nice puke might run somewhat counter to the g-rated image faire is trying to portray. If you don't allow the activity, then there's no problem.




Who am I kidding?
Unfortunately, it's going to take a 16 year old kid achieving room temp via a booze and pill cocktail for the KING to fix it.

[MrHyde]

The problem is you are right.  A day will come when an underage person overdoses and dies at the campground.  The family will sue TRF and George individually.  They will get an out of court settlement and the campgrounds will be closed.  Someone will open one nearby and will institute many of the policies and procedures we have discussed here.  They will be successful with it and not deal with what is being dealt with now.  People not from the area will either follow the new camping facilities rules and regulations or stay at a hotel.  The days of wild abandonment are numbered.  You can bet the bank on that for sure.