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Can anyone ID this painting (fragment)?

Started by gem, February 13, 2013, 10:49:53 PM

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gem



I stumbled across this in the last week or so, while doing research into German/Saxon/Cranach gowns, and foolishly snipped it, instead of pinning (Pinterest) it. I know nothing about the source, except that it's from 1530. At the time it caught my eye because it was pretty--but now I think it may hold the Secret Key to something I've been working on forever, and I'm desperate to figure out what it actually is. (Not to mention a higher resolution version wouldn't go amiss; right now I can't even tell if she's holding a basket of bottles or birds!) I have tried re-searching every search term I can possibly think of that I may have been using for image searches, and it's eluding me.

Does it look familiar to anyone? Dona C? Isabella? Anea? Anyone??!

Gramercy!!

DonaCatalina

I've looked at what I have saved and I don't have it. But I think I've seen it or something very similar in an altar panel with noblewomen grouped around the virgin Mary.
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isabelladangelo


gem

Isabella, you're right! And that also explains why I don't have any more information about it! LOL Thanks!!

Still would appreciate any more info anyone can find! :)


Elennare

If you've got the picture saved, try searching for it with tineye.  I tried it, but for some reason it found every picture on the page EXCEPT the one in question!
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gem

Quote from: DonaCatalina on February 14, 2013, 05:04:52 AM
I think I've seen it or something very similar in an altar panel....

DC, it's kind of reminiscent of this woman from Jan Merten's the Younger's "Marriage of the Virgin," (which I've posted here before, in the pink thread) but not quite:



I'm thinking the date of 1530 is a little late. It looks more pre-1525 to me, and it's definitely a Western/Northern European piece (French, Flemish, Dutch, etc). But I've been through every Dutch and Flemish painter I can think of, and nothing. Argh!

DonaCatalina

I think your right that the date is earlier.
The head dress shape is very similar to the Hans Holbein the Elder from 1516, albeit more elaborate.

I wish I had more time to search; but I'm thinking German or Flemish altar panel circa 1520.
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isabelladangelo

I'll look again today but, to me, it looks like it might be one of those Victorian re-drawings photoshopped on to a different background (I swear I know that headpiece in the background!  I want to say it's a religious painting like the Presentation at the Temple but I really can't recall and I can't find either the foreground or the background...)

gem

I think you may be onto something, Isabella. It's *definitely* been Photoshopped, and who knows what else. She manipulated a lot of the images she posted, including this one, who has not only been cropped from a Joos van Cleve altarpiece, but FLIPPED as well! (Which was obvious, because those tassels... well, they're pretty unforgettable! LOL)

Anyway, Victorian--or whenever!--manipulation or not, it has enough correct elements about it (unusual, yes, but things I've seen elsewhere) to suggest that it has an original 16th century source out there somewhere. I'd just love to get a closer look at it before I get in too deep. LOL