Following Orders

[Femme Falchion]

I wasn't sure if that's what she meant.

Brother Gregory....I meant your faire monk persona....do you see him as serving in any of the Military Orders....in his role as scribe and gardener it sounds as if he doesn't serve in a battle capacity.  Is that correct?  Which group do you see him affiliated with?

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Brother Gregory, I believe it was in reference to what your "persona" Brother Gregory here is?

Sister Hatchet, this I've not heard, but I will look into it.

[Brother Gregory]

Femme Falchion I would say he's more srvice to the church then Battle Capacity right now possibly in the furture he may be battle.

Warrior_Monk I think right now he's more service to the church Battle at some time soon possibly.

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Understood Brother, straight man of the cloth it is.

[Sir William Marcus]

[Femme Falchion]

Thank you Brother Gregory.  Got it.

Brother William....you seem somewhat repetitive today.  Am I missing something? 

(*don't bother playing off that last line....I can imagine all on my own*)

[Eternal Ranger]

Still interested?  Shall we continue?

You're talking about a time and people that had a vast pantheon of Gods. Your reference is especially noted for attempting to compel the Egyptian population in the monotheistic worship of Aten, although there are doubts as to how successful he was at this. Since he tried to place his towards the top of diety food chain of the time.

Their period was also marked by quite a few military actions.

It would, however, be Tutankhaten, who would abandon the capital of Akhenaten, along with the cult of its god. And resume business as usual.

Ahhah you bit.....
Yes there is some speculation as to how effective he was in changing the ideals of many senturies of belief.  But for 17 yrs the state religion was changed.  There were sects and classes that felt the urge to continue as they had for generations before but there was a group of people, some suggest that more of a social elite at the time, might have accepted it as there own.  A group of people who were relatively new to the area and had come to hold a significant amount of power.

Akhenaten's mother , Queen Tiye, was 1/2 hebrew and 1/2 egyptian.  Her father was Tuya, and her mother Yuya.  there is some specualtion that fits very well that the Great visoior Tuya was none other than Joseph of the Bible who came to the Pharoah and told him of his dreams which eventaully saved Egypt from many years of famine and starvation.  Joseph/Tuya was never allowed to be pharoah but was held in the utmost regard by not only Akhenaten, but also his father Amenhotep III.  It is believed that Yuya was sister of Amenhotep III, and gave her a claim on the throne if Amenhotep produced no male heirs.  He did, but one died before he could ascend to the right and privileges of Pharoah.  This left Amenhotep only one son, of whome there was very little  mention until he was given the title of Pharoah of all of Egypt.  At that time he was known as AmenHotep IV.  Some specualtion as to whether Amenhotep III died at his taking over or whether or not they were coregents. 

In the fifth year of his reign he found his new religion and cast out the old as he was travelling down the Nile.  He saw the setting sun in a Waddi on the western shore.  It is there that he founded his new Capitol of Aketaten.  For twlelve years the people worshipped one god under the sun above all others. 
The Aten.

Keeping in mind the political and financial upheaval that must have happened in a society where ther was a god for everything.  With multiple gods you needed multiple priests, and with multiple priests you needed to have somewhere they could worship and have their followers make their sacrifices and offerings of gold and blood.  IN one fell swoop all of that ended. 

The subterfuge and back room discussions must have been fierce.  The plots to assainate the Pharoah, must have been many and turid.  All the while Akhenaten is preaching love and peace and equality of all people under the Aten.  The Aten's life giving power was given to him and his Queen Nefertitti and from there the reflections of it pased through out the Kingdom.  So happy was he following his one god that he did not care much for the loss of many of his city/states far to the North of Canaan( now Israel)  His empire was collapsing from the outside and inside.  Something had to be done.  Otherwise the Hittites, sumarians, and etc would invade and take over the greatest empire at the height of its power.

Removing him forcibly would cause a panic, using military force would be a coupe and cause all neighbors to diverge.  The only option was a natural death and the replacement of him as pharoah. 

I have heard and read many accounts of military power saying to break an enemy you must break their spirit before you can conquer their bodies.  In Akhenatens 15yr of his reign, his beloved wife and perhaps the most beautiful queen of Egypt that was ever known dissappears from the record.  There is no further mention of her in any texts.  Only that Akhenaten was alone in his capitol city with out a wife.  His secondary wife kiya died in childbirth delivering him his only son, Tutankhaten. 


Shall we continue?

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

M'lord E.R.,

This info is all well and good, but where's the point of the Arc? Will I be required to travel through a stargate to find what I seek? Maybe you and I should continue this course of discussion via PMs so as not to bog the thread down with things unrelated to the Medieval Military Orders?
Or start a new thread, maybe something like: Hip, Hip, Amun-Ra, ra, ra!

[Sir William Marcus]

Brother William....you seem somewhat repetitive today.  Am I missing something? 

Just a little visual memorization experiment I am currently dabbling with M'Lady

[Lady Christina de Pond]

how goes the visual memorization brother

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

*We interrupt our regularly scheduled topics, for the daily devotional*

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

how goes the visual memorization brother

Not well...if you can't remember it!

[Sir William Marcus]

The Saints of the Order of Malta

The patron Saint of the Order is St. John the Baptist since the church at the foundation hospital of the Order was dedicated to him.

Members of the order who have been officially canonised (proclaimed as Saints) by the Church:




St. Hugh




St. Nicaise




St. Toscana




Saint Fleur





St. Ubaldesca

[Lady Christina de Pond]

how goes the visual memorization brother

Not well...if you can't remember it!

i didn't mean my visual memorization my memory like a steel trap
I ment his visual memorization

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

i didn't mean my visual memorization my memory like a steel trap

empty.....closed?

The door was left open for that................