Renaissance Riding Hat

[LadyElizabeth]

So I'm trying to find pics of women in the renaissance error, preferrably Elizabethan, but also Tudor times is fine, that is similar to this hat.



I just bought this absolutely georgous riding hat which I think looks very similar to the one Anne Boleyn wore on the HBO series The TUdors from the pic above.  I'm wondering how accurate it is and how it was worn.  I.e. with hair down, with hair in a caul or snood, ect...

[Miranda]

http://tudorhistory.org/elizabeth/elizahunting.jpg
http://tudorhistory.org/elizabeth/elizapicnic.jpg

The first one shows QE1 wearing an Italian bonnet or Toque of sorts.
The second one is a bit harder to make out but appears to also be some sort of structured pleated hat...probably an Italian Bonnet or Toque.

[operafantomet]

Funny, I updated the Italian glossary site with various hat pics yesterday!

http://www.geocities.com/pisslei/vocabulary.html (----->COPRICALLA)

They're all Italian, though.... ETA. Eleonora di Toledo is said to have worn her riding hats and bonnets with a hairnet. I don't think it was ever worn with loose hair in the 16.th century - all the portraits and paintings I've seen seems to show some sort of bound/pinned hair-do's. But as usual, my field is Italian Renaissance. Maybe they wore it totally different in places like England, Spain or Germany. Hopefully someone else will fill me out...

[Adriana Rose]

The hat that you have looks pretty close to the one in the first picture.... ( and fabbo to boot)

I would think that it would be worn with a snood of some kind.

[Tygrkat]

I would lean toward a caul or snood of some sort...just a guess though.

Really I just wanted to remark on what a lovely hat that is...I'm guessing that is machine embroidery? It really is quite beautiful 

[LadyElizabeth]

I'm pretty sure it's machine embroidered, but I know for sure it is embroidered of some kind since she told me it was.  She's making me a Caul with the embroidered pattern on it too... very unique I think...

Personally, I'm going to wear it both with my hair down and with a Caul.  I'm thinking the hair down look isn't all that HA, but it just looks so cool in the show the Tudors and I have long nice hair I"d like to be seen.....  I was hoping I'd find a few pics that might support my Desire...

[Miranda]

Everything that I have seen and read has indicated loose hair was worn by the young (probably prepubescent) girls, brides, and "mad" women in the 16th century. 
16th century English stage directions used loose hair to indicate a that a character was insane (Ophelia in Hamlet) or the victim of violence (Lavinia in Titus Andronicus.)

Really the long and the short of it is that Elizabethans were very, very fastidious about their appearance.  Even the hair under a French Hood would have been snugly encased under a coif of some sort.  Many of the things that are seen at Faire, loose hair, off-the-shoulder-smocks, etc would have been viewed as slovenly. 

That being said, we have very different aesthetics than the Elizabethans (untucked shirts and ratty jeans attest to this fact.)  A large population considers off-the-shoulder-smocks provocative.  Long hair was pretty much de rigueur until the 1920s, now you don't see it as much, so I doubt anyone is going to accost you for wearing your hair down.

[Joyce "Delfinia DuSwallow" Howard]

All I have to say is "THATS A GREAT HAT".

[Cilean]

So I'm trying to find pics of women in the renaissance error, preferrably Elizabethan, but also Tudor times is fine, that is similar to this hat.

I just bought this absolutely georgous riding hat which I think looks very similar to the one Anne Boleyn wore on the HBO series The TUdors from the pic above.  I'm wondering how accurate it is and how it was worn.  I.e. with hair down, with hair in a caul or snood, ect...

Here is Lynn McMasters Photo of a good Riding Hat. 
https://www.reconstructinghistory.com/home.php?c=22&d=185&w=24&r=Y

I think the Boylen Hat shown there was actually taken from a Male hat but it could be an Italian Bonnet, again check out Lynn's site.
http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/hatsbonnet.html

I can't help but suggest not using the Tudors as a look at historical clothing, not that the clothing is bad it is just put together in the worst way! But if you like it? Go for it!

I would make a coif or caul or escaffion and put it on under the hat and have a blast with it!

[LadyElizabeth]

I wore the hat Sat with hair down.


And then Sun, up in the Caul.




Hard to say what looked "better", but both were fun.

[silverstah]

Oh, VERY cute, LE - I think I like it with the caul better - but both looks are lovely.

OMG - I totally covet your Tudor rose goblet.  Where did you get that?!?!?

[LadyElizabeth]

The royal Eggs lady who goes to KCRF.  Her website is broken, but if you want more info I can renmail you her email.  It cost quite a pretty penny, but it was SOOO worth it!!  It's actually an ostrich shell bejeweled and then encased in lots of resin.

[silverstah]

The royal Eggs lady who goes to KCRF.  Her website is broken, but if you want more info I can renmail you her email.  It cost quite a pretty penny, but it was SOOO worth it!!  It's actually an ostrich shell bejeweled and then encased in lots of resin.

Oh, yes please, send me the info.   Thanks so much!

[NicoleBridget]

I made this hat, the blue one, from Lynn's "Italian bonnet" pattern.  I really like yours too and I have to agree with Silverstah...I like them with hair up the best.  French hoods on the other hand...I love them with the hair down.

[Cilean]

Oh, VERY cute, LE - I think I like it with the caul better - but both looks are lovely.
OMG - I totally covet your Tudor rose goblet.  Where did you get that?!?!?

Me TOO!! Can you send me her link?? I adore that, I wonder if she can do a Purple Rose???

Awesome!!!

Cilean