Hat Question

[Kathleen MacLeod]

I need to make better hats to go with my noble garb. I ran into a girl at faire a couple weeks ago who was wearing a hat very similar to this one:



It went straight back and stopped at the crown rather than curving up and back down over the back of the head, but it was otherwise the same. She said made the frame by bending a wire coat hanger. I'd like to try this, but I'm hesitant without any more direction than "bend a wire hanger." Does anyone know where I might find directions online for something like this? And does this kind of hat have a name?

Thanks

[isabelladangelo]

The hat is called an Attifet  and is most commonly seen in mid to late 16th c portraits.  Like this:

http://www.marie-stuart.co.uk/images/Mary_older.jpg

There are several blogs that describe how to make one and I think there is even a pattern for one....

[Syrilla]

Just to let you know, there are as many theories on what the "Attifet" is/ how it was made as there are suggestions on how to make them.  The MOST important thing about this style is how you hair is worn underneath it.  Look at the paintings, and see how most of the time the curve is with the curve of the hair.  Yes, there are exceptions.  Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine. 

Coat hangers will work fine, but I prefer a smaller wire, with a little more flexibility.

[DonaCatalina]

Butterick (B4210) has a pattern out for an attifet but I have yet to check it out but the picture makes it look promising. They call it the Elizabethan hat.

[NoBill Lurker]

http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/attifetpatcover.html

A great place for hat patterns...

[gem]

Margo Anderson's accessories pattern also includes an attifet (plus other hats if you decide on another style)!
http://margospatterns.com/Products/ElizAccessrs.html

[Genievea Brookstone]

I made the Lynn McMasters Attifet pattern.  I sewed a hair comb on the inside both at the back and on top of the crown to keep it in place.  We were at Bristol over the holiday weekend and it was windy as all get out Saturday and this thing wasnt going anywhere off my head!

[Kathleen MacLeod]

Thank you for the replies! Even knowing the name helps so much

I'm also looking into making a pillbox or two. How have you ladies gone about that?

[LadyStitch]

Check out Vogue patterns. They have a great set of 1930-40's vintage style hat patterns.  I have not made any of them but they are available.

[gem]

There's an interesting discussion about this type of hat on the Elizabethan Clothing Tribes.net this week (http://tribes.tribe.net/elizabethan_clothing). Beware that they bill themselves as vehemently H/A, but it's a great place to learn stuff.

[Cilean]

People have told you already it is an Attifet and I have a wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better pattern for you plus there is the Coif and Caul or escaffion, tall hat, riding hats really any hat you might want for Renaissance!
http://www.lynnmcmasters.com/patterns.html


Here is what it looks like:



Cilean

[gem]

I'm also looking into making a pillbox or two. How have you ladies gone about that?

A quick search for "pillbox" brought up this thread from last summer:
http://www.renaissancefestival.com/forums/index.php?topic=7349.0

Which contains a couple of methods, including the one I used (Orphena's instructions for a plastic canvas base).

[Kathleen MacLeod]

D'oh! Of course a forum search would've worked for the pillbox question... silly me 

Thanks again for all the help, ladies! I'll let you know how it goes.

[Marcello]

I know this thread has been dead for a little while, but I too need some help.  I am trying to make the Tall Hat in Margo Anderson's accessories patterns.  It is requiring me to cut 1D, 1E, and 1F out of plastic canvas.  I don't think I have lost my mind or part of my pattern, but I can't find these pieces.  Please help!

Many Thanks,
Lord Marcello

[gem]

Marcello, you might try emailing Margo directly (link on her website). I seem to recall at least one of the hat patterns had pieces missing.

[Lady Kathleen of Olmsted]

AS for Hat Patterns, one cannot go wrong with Lynn McMasters' patterns. There are a few more I plan to order after the holidays.

I di suggest ordering Buckram and Millinery wire from http://www.judithm.com/

I order the http://www.judithm.com/shop/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=1766&category_id=cadeffee6352125969c1967cce03b843 Heavyweight Crown Buckram for hats. Sturdy, one needs one layer rather than 2.

Prices are reasonable for higher quality Buckram and Millinery wire.http://www.judithm.com/shop/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=181&category_id=2f55f998bce0440094fb4acd568d08af 18 or 19 guage wire is preferred.

Hope this helps because the fabric stores do not carry good quality Buckram. Plastic canvas works well for some types of hats, but not all hats.

[Lady Kathleen of Olmsted]

Hats I have done using Lynn McMasters patterns and Millinery supplies from Judith M Millinery.

Elizabethn Arched Tall Hat for my Granddaughter


Late Victorian Hat


My cavalier styled hat using the Victorian Hat pattern, just twealing it a bit.

[Cilean]

I know this thread has been dead for a little while, but I too need some help.  I am trying to make the Tall Hat in Margo Anderson's accessories patterns.  It is requiring me to cut 1D, 1E, and 1F out of plastic canvas.  I don't think I have lost my mind or part of my pattern, but I can't find these pieces.  Please help!  Many Thanks, Lord Marcello

I have them in my accessories patterns, are you part of Margo's Yahoo Group? I would suggest speaking with her directly and perhaps she can send you a link on it!

Cilean

[Marcello]

Thank you all for responding!

Lady Cathleen I love the curved Elizabethan you made for your granddaughter.  I will have to check out Lynn Master's patterns.  I have her spiral sleeve pattern.

Cilean I am not a member of Margo's yahoo group.  I should be as I have several of her patterns.  I am not sure how I ended up missing those pieces.  I am currently trying to make it work with what I have and its turning out to be problematic. Not sure her pattern is really the shape I am looking for.

[amy]

FYI... I have seen the Butterick "Elizabethan Hat" made up and it is way too big at the back.   It really looked like a helmet with a very fluffy veil ...  at least that is the way this particular wearer put it together.