Cod Piece!!!

[Don Giovanni de' Medici]

So, I have recently created my first Cod Piece and could not decide, "What is the best way to wear/attach it?"

So, wilt thy masses come forth and aid my dilemma?  Grazie tutti!

~Visconte Vincente

[Don Giovanni de' Medici]

So, I have recently created my first Cod Piece and could not decide, "What is the best way to wear/attach it?"

So, wilt thy masses come forth and aid my dilemma?  Grazie tutti!

~Visconte Vincente

[Lady Kathleen of Olmsted]

Vicconte!!!

You can discreetly sew lacing loops onto your slops with a heavy thread in the needed places to blend in, then lace the ties so they attach. THat should work.

[Miranda]

First off.  Is this going on Trunk Hose? 

With my friend's trunks we whip stitched the bottom of the cod piece directly to the trunks and pointed the top and sides with eylets on the codpiece and points on the trunks.  It worked well.

[DonaCatalina]

The ones I make for his excellency have ties at the top corners. I use a picot ribbon that blends in with the fabic of the slops.

[operafantomet]

I think the ones I've seen (of historical examples) have been tied-ons. Often the cod-piece has been attached to a small panel, and it's the panel that has been laced to the front of the pants/trouses/hoses. The latter is the case with the Sture clothes (or at least that of Erik and Svante Sture), and of the Medici clothes. Some general pictures of them here, not showing the cod-piece in detail:

STURE: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/nordiskedrakter/renessansebarokk/svantesture.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v31/operafantomet/nordiskedrakter/renessansebarokk/eriksture.jpg

MEDICI:
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/workbox/extmenclo1.htm

I have more detailed pics, if you need it. Much is from Janet Arnold's "Patterns of Fashion" and Nina Rangström's "Modelejon". 

[DonaCatalina]

This is an early Spanish style codpiece that is roughly triangular and has no back panel. The ties are behind the upper corners.


The larger Henrician codpieces shaped rather like a P and attached to a triangular back piece. I don't have a good photo of that.

[Don Giovanni de' Medici]

It is to be on venetians or pantaloons actually.  But I wonder if this may work?

~Visconte Vincente

[Miranda]

Why are you putting a codpiece on them?  The button fly of venetians make the codpiece unnecessary.  To be completely honest I can't think of any examples of codpieces on Venetians.

[UrsulaChandler]

Attach it to an athletic supporter to wear under the venetians. It will hang through the gap in front.

[Adriana Rose]

I have a friend who's cod that ties on...

there are strings that are on each corner and two go around the waist and well the third needs no explianing... That said he wears his tights rarely cuz he says the blasted thing is uncomfortable, but that is him

hope that helps

[Don Giovanni de' Medici]

Thanks all, but I hath solved this dilemma with everyones aid on both this thread and my other.  Grazie ragazzi!

~Visconte Vincente

[Don Giovanni de' Medici]

Grazie ragazzi!  I have gone with ties in the upper corners idea and could not be happier.  Thank thee all once again.

[Kate XXXXXX]

First thought was a nail...   

[The Scotsquatch]

Staples!!!  Thumb tacks might work too...lmao!  Or you COULD use sheet rock screws 

Kev

[Friar Rohn the Chronicler]

Nail Gun set on low......several tubes of Super Glue......a roll of 2mm CatGut and a surgery manual?

[Kate XXXXXX]

The Costumers Best Friends: nappy pins and duct tape!

[operafantomet]

Just got the "Moda alla corte dei Medici" from the library. It deals with the funeral attires of Eleonora di Toledo, her husband Cosimo I and their son don Garzia, both before and after conservation.

What was interesting (apart from... well, the whole book itself...) was the cod piece of Cosimo I. There is a picture both of the remains of it and a drawing of how it looked originally. Turns out the whole thing was attached to a metal construction (dressed in fabric), and that it was laced to the doublet.


The actual cod piece construction. "Fragment of Cosimo I's breeches after conservation. The remains of the cod-piece are supported with a fine metal wire wrapped with thread. The crotch and contour ribbon of the right leg have been left extended" (page 70)


A drawing by Janet Arnold on how it probably originally looked. "Conjectured appearance of the cod-piece decorated with silk braid at the front of the hose worn by Cosimo I" (also page 70)

The doublet to which it was laced can be seen in Bella's site:
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/workbox/extmenclo2.htm