Next Week on Deadliest Warrior Knight vs Pirate

[Chris B]

Always a favorite shot of mine. 
Yes you're correct, most will be dealing within a budget. It does take time to put things together. Currently we have a Brother on another thread who seeks a place to puchase a decent kite shield with the Hospitaller colors on it, although I'm sure he'd take a blank and do the work himself.

I have a set of "full" butted chausses, but don't like their attaching point. I'm contemplating cutting them in half and doing a lacing across the back.

Of course I could always go back to Iraq for a spell to purchase a good set of riveted chausses to go with my shirt.

Thanks for your reply.

No problem.  I have found it best to make all my own shields.  I have actually gotten quite good at it!     It is always hard to find exactly what you want elsewhere anyways.

I am still playing with my chauses each time I wear them making small adjustments until hopefully, they will eventually fit perfectly.

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

BTW, wouldn't that brain bucket make it a 13th century appearance?

What sort of tip are you using on the lance? One with cross members?

[Chris B]

BTW, wouldn't that brain bucket make it a 13th century appearance?

What sort of tip are you using on the lance? One with cross members?

Yes.  With the Great Helm it would be 13th.  I also have a spanghen helm and am getting a plain conical so I can push it forward or back with the impression.  The lance tip is hard to see in the pic because of the trees, but it is more of a triangular sectioned tip without any lugs.

[Sir William Marcus]

[Monsignor de Beaumanoir]

Priceless! 

[Sir William Marcus]

Tonites the nite! Who will be victorious!

[Robert eben Hope]

I still have my money on the Knight, One shot from a pistol will not help the pirate much.

[Robert eben Hope]

Wow...I am shocked...

[BLAKDUKE]

Well  who won?   I taped it because I knew it was going to go past my bedtime.  I was rushed this morning so I did not play back the ending.

[Cobaltblu]

The pirate won, however they made a mistake in the calculations because they did not take into account the knight's metal shield.  The firearms could never penetrate both the shield and the armor.

Regards,

CB

[Chris B]

Like I said......

Next week on the deadliest warrior........

The Red Baron V an F-22 Raptor.  Who will win?  Please.

[Cobaltblu]

It isn't the same as comparing the red baron to a F-22 because the matches they have had have not had such differences in technology and capability.

There is obviously a lot of variability in how they evaluate the effectiveness of each weapon and armor and I have seen some obvious faults in their methodology, but it is an entertaining show.

With this particular episode the pirate has gunpowder with his flintlock pistol and blunderbuss however the knight has chainmail and plate armor and a steel shield and we still use steel for protection from firearms today.

I actually think the knight should have won since I doubt the blunderbuss would have been able to penetrate a steel shield and a breastplate.

But with any weapon the most important thing is how the individual uses it and what tactics he implements.

Regards,

CB

[Sir William Marcus]

I was entertained and the knight should been victorious



This has to be the funniest one I've seen yet.  I especially get a kick out of the chosen experts and all the bashing that goes on between the two sides. Its also interesting to see the effects the weapons have on gel man and the pig carcasses.

I know its all on the silly side, however I will be watching next week as I will be curious to see who the experts are and how they will determine the outcome of the next match-up of Yakuza vs. Mafia

Mafia - the deadly crime family that rule New York's 1920's underworld, versus Yakuza - feared gang lords that dominate the mean streets of 1940's Tokyo. Their bloody turf war to decide who is deadliest will be settled with machine guns, sawn off shotguns, pistols, bats, nunchuks and icepicks.

Who chose this one? Is it  going to be, who gets the jump on who first?? Who ambushes better, or makes the better offer the other side can't refuse??  Interesting to me as I personally would of never considered these two groups as Warrior candidates. I'll just have to watch and see 

The Red Baron V an F-22 Raptor.  Who will win?  Please.

I don't know Chris "Manfred Albrecht von Richthofen" is at the stick?? 

[Chris B]

Well like I said earlier, just in the Spartan v. Ninja episode alone, there were more mistakes on facts than I care to dictate in a thread.  Playing the devils advocate, and just for starters.  

Ninjato = Never existed in the form shown on the show, pure hollywood myth.
Aspis = Should have been bronze over wood lined in leather.  The shield was never just a bronze shell.
Cuirass = They were never as thick as 12 gauge.  The Greek metal used was thinner than this.
Swords = If your going to compare cleaving or cutting power, the Spartans also used the Falcata which has much better cleaving/cutting power than a xiphos.
The comment about Spartans being used to Phalanx warfare is also not on point.  They were also trained in Skirmish warfare as well.  Once a Phalanx broke and ran, there would have been more one on one contact.

Also,

There actually are vast differences in technology between a lot of these warriors.  Defensive and Offensive advancements were dynamic and always evolving to beat the next best advancement.  Just something as simple as adding ridges and browlines to a Roman helmet, for example, was a MAJOR advancement that helped protect a Legionnaire from the falcata and falx.  One century does make a huge difference.  

The other major problem is how clumsy they portray these warriors.  Just the first pass of the knight alone with a morning star or flail could have ended it at the onset.  I think the testing and first 3/4ths of the show is interesting without "the outcome" which is complete fabrication to say the least.

But all in all I agree with this:

"But with any weapon the most important thing is how the individual uses it and what tactics he implements."

They take all the human decision making process out of the equation which is THE most important factor in any dynamic encounter.  Boyd's Cycle comes to mind.

[Sir William Marcus]

The other major problem is how clumsy they portray these warriors.  Just the first pass of the knight alone with a morning star or flail could have ended it at the onset.  I think the testing and first 3/4ths of the show is interesting without "the outcome" which is complete fabrication to say the least.

But all in all I agree with this:

"But with any weapon the most important thing is how the individual uses it and what tactics he implements."

They take all the human decision making process out of the equation which is THE most important factor in any dynamic encounter.  Boyd's Cycle comes to mind.

Absolutely without a doubt.  I must ask out of curiosity if you where asked to represent a warrior on this program which warrior would it be?