I'm a Bad American

[Sir William Marcus]

Sir William Marcus, I believe that I owe you a beer now, maybe 2 or 3...

Your good brother Angus!

I must apologize as I cannot take credit for originally writing that post.

[Xanthenes The Unbalanced]

Yeah as Deist, (as were some of the founding fathers) I'ld like to keep God out of my government please.

Yep, as an atheist, I definitely agree.  But that's why they came up with a wonderful thing called "Separation of Church and State"....well, that was the idea anyway, I'm not quite sure that exists anymore...but one can hope.

This reminds me of an argument I had with a friend of mine a couple months back.  He's a "devout" atheist, and over dinner we were discussing the finer points of religion.  The conversation hit a bit of a snag when I told him I considered him only one degree off from a fundamentalist Christian.  This, of course, did not make him happy, as he considers himself 180 degrees from such people.

I asked him, was he truly an atheist or simply an agnostic?  He responded that he was absolutely an atheist.  So, again, I told him he was only one degree off from a fundamentalist Christian, as Atheism, like many religions, is a professed knowledge of the unknowable.  Christians just have one more god.

//Deist, Agnostic, Just a guy without a damn clue

[groomporter]

I asked him, was he truly an atheist or simply an agnostic?  He responded that he was absolutely an atheist.  So, again, I told him he was only one degree off from a fundamentalist Christian, as Atheism, like many religions, is a professed knowledge of the unknowable.  Christians just have one more god.

//Deist, Agnostic, Just a guy without a damn clue

Heard something along the same line recently, an atheist was talking to a Christian and the Atheist explained that the Christian didn't believe in any other gods, and the Atheist said he was in total agreement with the Christian, except that he believed in one less god than the Christian.

It's kind of scary for non-believers though since a couple years ago Atheists were shown to be the least trusted American minority in a survey conducted at the Univ. of MN
http://blog.lib.umn.edu/edgell/home/Strib%20Atheist%20Faith%20and%20Values.html

[Julianne]

The end of the line statement for me is that there is no such thing as a "Bad American"...sometimes we are ugly and sometimes we shine.  It's up to the individual to decide where and when that may be.

Afterall is said and done I will always care for my American bretheren first and foremost and I will always support your right to say what you will.  I personally embrace my ethnic heritage and I encourage all other ethnicities to do so as well because as a Nation of Immigrants that's just what we do here.

In the United States of America there is room for all kinds of thoughts and credos and beliefs....no one is ever persecuted for that...ever.  If that does ever happen and the law catches them we do enforce our laws to the fullest extent.  This hasn't always been true in our history and sometimes it is missed but I holdfast that we eventually do serve justice and all that is right however late it may be.


I thank everyone for their support on both sides of this issue afterall it is that freedom of speech that really does define us as citizens and occupants of the United States of America.

[groomporter]

Amen

(all irony accepted as implied considering my previous posts)

[Cap'n Hunnar Graybeard]

He is something my son wrote 6 years ago for school. It helped him understand why I served my country for 12 years.

It applies to all Americans, good or bad.

My Freedoms are a Privilege

Webster's dictionary defines freedom as "the right to enjoy all the privileges or special rights of citizenship in a community or the like."

They define privilege as "any of the rights common to all citizens under a modern constitutional government."

We have these freedoms and privileges because the founders of our nation knew what it was like to live without them. There are people coming to America every day to learn what it is like to have freedom and privileges that they did not have in their own countries.

With freedom and privilege you can:

Go anywhere you want.
Travel whenever you want.
Attend any church you choose.

Most of all:

My freedoms are a privilege because of the people that have fought and died for our country.

[BrokenArts]

I'm a bad american, because I want my kids to play dodge ball, without getting dodged by the school, cause they might get hurt. 

[Tipsy Gypsy]

Cap'n Hunnar, how old was your son when he wrote that? It's great.

[Cap'n Hunnar Graybeard]

Cap'n Hunnar, how old was your son when he wrote that? It's great.

He was 9.

[Tipsy Gypsy]

What a kid!

[renren]

Cap'n Hunnar, that's fantastic!

[Lord Figaro]

I always enjoy listening to others about political ideals and such. If we never did, then no one would have any idea about anything. It's discussions (so long as the people are open minded about the other sides opinion) that can form some pretty great things. After all, if we didn't, then the US of A probably never would have happened.  We'd still probably be a part of the British empire or what ever empire ruled over the particular part of this great land we live in.

[renren]

Exactly, Fig!